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Re: BLM list of Demands, we are literally negotiating with terrorists

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:02 pm
by Momto2boys973
Well, you have to know exactly what he means. Do you? Because “burn down the system” doesn’t necessarily imply violence. If what he said was “if we don’t give us what we want, we will plant bombs on police precincts” or “we will start murdering cops/white people” then yes, downright terrorism. “Burning down the system” is simply stating that you’ll fight for a new regime, it’s not an actual threat of violence.
There are plenty of abused words in today’s lexicon- nazi and shaming come to mind- so let’s not add “terrorist” to that.
Mr.Smile wrote: Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:51 pm
Momto2boys973 wrote: Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:12 am I wouldn’t jump to call them “terrorists’, but yeah. That’s an unreasonable list of demands.
Hawk Newsome, the president of Greater New York Black Lives Matter, threatened to "burn down this system" if "the country doesn't give us what we want" in an interview Wednesday with FOX News host Martha MacCallum.

When you make demands and threaten to commit more acts of violence if they're not met, that is terrorism.

should everyone burn down cities, seize federal property, vandalize and loot until they get whatever policies they want enacted? that's not how this works. they can go vote, they can peacefully protest, giving them what they want with no consideration for other citizens just to make them stop is a terrible precedent to set. Never negotiate with terrorists.

Re: BLM list of Demands, we are literally negotiating with terrorists

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:09 pm
by Deleted User 1616
Momto2boys973 wrote: Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:02 pm Well, you have to know exactly what he means. Do you? Because “burn down the system” doesn’t necessarily imply violence. If what he said was “if we don’t give us what we want, we will plant bombs on police precincts” or “we will start murdering cops/white people” then yes, downright terrorism. “Burning down the system” is simply stating that you’ll fight for a new regime, it’s not an actual threat of violence.
There are plenty of abused words in today’s lexicon- nazi and shaming come to mind- so let’s not add “terrorist” to that.
Mr.Smile wrote: Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:51 pm
Momto2boys973 wrote: Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:12 am I wouldn’t jump to call them “terrorists’, but yeah. That’s an unreasonable list of demands.
Hawk Newsome, the president of Greater New York Black Lives Matter, threatened to "burn down this system" if "the country doesn't give us what we want" in an interview Wednesday with FOX News host Martha MacCallum.

When you make demands and threaten to commit more acts of violence if they're not met, that is terrorism.

should everyone burn down cities, seize federal property, vandalize and loot until they get whatever policies they want enacted? that's not how this works. they can go vote, they can peacefully protest, giving them what they want with no consideration for other citizens just to make them stop is a terrible precedent to set. Never negotiate with terrorists.
they have literally burned down multiple buildings, torn down statues and monuments, looted, and seize federal government land or attempted to. that's not protest, that is terrorism. not all acts of terrorism are murder. the KKK burning crosses in black people's yards was terrorism.

Re: BLM list of Demands, we are literally negotiating with terrorists

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:14 pm
by Momto2boys973
Who’s “they”? The leaders of this movement or isolated individuals? Because as I told you on the post you decided to abandon, white supremacists have acted with violence inspired by Trump’s rhetoric. So can I legitimately say that Trump supports these acts of violence because of what “they” did?
Mr.Smile wrote: Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:09 pm
Momto2boys973 wrote: Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:02 pm Well, you have to know exactly what he means. Do you? Because “burn down the system” doesn’t necessarily imply violence. If what he said was “if we don’t give us what we want, we will plant bombs on police precincts” or “we will start murdering cops/white people” then yes, downright terrorism. “Burning down the system” is simply stating that you’ll fight for a new regime, it’s not an actual threat of violence.
There are plenty of abused words in today’s lexicon- nazi and shaming come to mind- so let’s not add “terrorist” to that.
Mr.Smile wrote: Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:51 pm

Hawk Newsome, the president of Greater New York Black Lives Matter, threatened to "burn down this system" if "the country doesn't give us what we want" in an interview Wednesday with FOX News host Martha MacCallum.

When you make demands and threaten to commit more acts of violence if they're not met, that is terrorism.

should everyone burn down cities, seize federal property, vandalize and loot until they get whatever policies they want enacted? that's not how this works. they can go vote, they can peacefully protest, giving them what they want with no consideration for other citizens just to make them stop is a terrible precedent to set. Never negotiate with terrorists.
they have literally burned down multiple buildings, torn down statues and monuments, looted, and seize federal government land or attempted to. that's not protest, that is terrorism. not all acts of terrorism are murder. the KKK burning crosses in black people's yards was terrorism.

Re: BLM list of Demands, we are literally negotiating with terrorists

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:16 pm
by SouthernIslander
Momto2boys973 wrote: Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:02 pm Well, you have to know exactly what he means. Do you? Because “burn down the system” doesn’t necessarily imply violence. If what he said was “if we don’t give us what we want, we will plant bombs on police precincts” or “we will start murdering cops/white people” then yes, downright terrorism. “Burning down the system” is simply stating that you’ll fight for a new regime, it’s not an actual threat of violence.
There are plenty of abused words in today’s lexicon- nazi and shaming come to mind- so let’s not add “terrorist” to that.
Mr.Smile wrote: Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:51 pm
Momto2boys973 wrote: Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:12 am I wouldn’t jump to call them “terrorists’, but yeah. That’s an unreasonable list of demands.
Hawk Newsome, the president of Greater New York Black Lives Matter, threatened to "burn down this system" if "the country doesn't give us what we want" in an interview Wednesday with FOX News host Martha MacCallum.

When you make demands and threaten to commit more acts of violence if they're not met, that is terrorism.

should everyone burn down cities, seize federal property, vandalize and loot until they get whatever policies they want enacted? that's not how this works. they can go vote, they can peacefully protest, giving them what they want with no consideration for other citizens just to make them stop is a terrible precedent to set. Never negotiate with terrorists.
The word terrorist is starting to lose its meaning too.

Re: BLM list of Demands, we are literally negotiating with terrorists

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:18 pm
by jas
Umm... Not going to happen.

Re: BLM list of Demands, we are literally negotiating with terrorists

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:21 pm
by Momto2boys973
Exactly. It’s going the way the word “Nazi” is going. When you can call a woman who’ll criticize you for not BF your child a “Nazi”, the true meaning of what being a “Nazi” is just looses its meaning.
If anyone that makes demands is now a “terrorist”, sheesh... let’s all just be nice little mindless drones not wanting anything better because if we demand it, we’re no better than ISIS murderers.
SouthernIslander wrote: Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:16 pm
Momto2boys973 wrote: Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:02 pm Well, you have to know exactly what he means. Do you? Because “burn down the system” doesn’t necessarily imply violence. If what he said was “if we don’t give us what we want, we will plant bombs on police precincts” or “we will start murdering cops/white people” then yes, downright terrorism. “Burning down the system” is simply stating that you’ll fight for a new regime, it’s not an actual threat of violence.
There are plenty of abused words in today’s lexicon- nazi and shaming come to mind- so let’s not add “terrorist” to that.
Mr.Smile wrote: Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:51 pm

Hawk Newsome, the president of Greater New York Black Lives Matter, threatened to "burn down this system" if "the country doesn't give us what we want" in an interview Wednesday with FOX News host Martha MacCallum.

When you make demands and threaten to commit more acts of violence if they're not met, that is terrorism.

should everyone burn down cities, seize federal property, vandalize and loot until they get whatever policies they want enacted? that's not how this works. they can go vote, they can peacefully protest, giving them what they want with no consideration for other citizens just to make them stop is a terrible precedent to set. Never negotiate with terrorists.
The word terrorist is starting to lose its meaning too.

Re: BLM list of Demands, we are literally negotiating with terrorists

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:38 pm
by Mommabearof2
BLM is a terrorist group and I think if anyone does research on them, they will see it.

Re: BLM list of Demands, we are literally negotiating with terrorists

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:53 pm
by Deleted User 172
Oh wow.
There's so much to say about this.

Re: BLM list of Demands, we are literally negotiating with terrorists

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 2:15 pm
by Deleted User 670
You need a new hobby. This one is gonna give you a stroke. I wouldn't take anything from Fox as factual unless other news sources and NOT alt right faux news sites said the same thing.

Re: BLM list of Demands, we are literally negotiating with terrorists

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:36 pm
by Momto2boys973
You can do a simple Google search and you’ll find plenty of sites (including official BLM sites) and read these demands. Fox News isn’t making those up.
And TBH, reading these demands all I can see is people demanding the right to do whatever they please without anyone telling them they shouldn’t. It’s a call to end the law and the enforcement of it. That’s the bottom line, fighting for anarchy.
And I have to wonder if these people didn’t use the issue of racial tensions to further their own agenda of anarchy, if this has really never been about equality or fighting racism and how many well intentioned people are just being manipulated. I mean, read those demands again, how many really tie with racial inequality? They’re not about fighting racism at all! They’re all about demanding the right to do whatever we please without punishment and give us free stuff.
pinkbutterfly66 wrote: Tue Jun 30, 2020 2:15 pm You need a new hobby. This one is gonna give you a stroke. I wouldn't take anything from Fox as factual unless other news sources and NOT alt right faux news sites said the same thing.