BLM list of Demands, we are literally negotiating with terrorists

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SMH

What’s worse is I am sure some people think those demands are reasonable and agree with them.
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wtf f**k them.
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I wouldn’t jump to call them “terrorists’, but yeah. That’s an unreasonable list of demands.
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Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:12 am
I wouldn’t jump to call them “terrorists’, but yeah. That’s an unreasonable list of demands.
I believe prostitution should be legal hopefully to get rid of the damned pimps who beat and or attempt to hold their women hostage. If nothing else I believe locking up the women is like locking up an addict-it really does nothing to solve the problem. I'm also pretty anti-death penalty unless we're talking someone like Hannibal Lecter. It's torture and cruel punishment to keep a prisoner on death row as long as we do. It costs us more to execute a criminal than to give him life. With all the appeals many die before they even get to the lethal injection. And free education-is that not what Sanders spoke of? A white Jewish man. Fact is, Bernie wants several of these things. But if it's BLM that's different. I believe some are unrealistic but I wouldn't call these people terrorists either. I think it's a common tactic in negotiation. You shoot for the stars so to speak and then leave room for compromise. You don't go for too low goals or compromise will make them even lower, kwim?
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I really have no strong position regarding the death penalty. I don’t think it does anything to deter crime, though. Regarding prostitution, I don’t believe in making wrong things legal just because it may prevent other crimes. It may “fix” one problem. It creates others. Many people in the Netherlands are demanding to reinstate a ban on prostitution because it has turned their capital into one huge brothel for tourists and it really hasn’t made much of a difference in S*x trafficking and exploitation. In fact, it makes women look as commodities that you can buy and sell.
Sanders really isn’t the epitome of a Jewish man. I actually would’ve voted for Trump if Sanders had been the candidate because of his anti-Istael position and his socialist ideas. I even think that at some level he’s a self-hating Jew. Joseph Lieberman, Mike Bloomberg, those are Jews I can get behind and support. Bernie? Not even a little. I think it’s not viable in America to offer free education and healthcare for all. So I’m not being inconsistent by claiming those demands are unreasonable because they were made by BLM as opposed to by a white Jewish man. I actually don’t think that anyone who supported Bernie proposing those things is against them as demands from BLM. I’ve been saying that since Bernie tried for the presidency in 2016.
And defunding the police? Idiotic at best.
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Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:12 am
I wouldn’t jump to call them “terrorists’, but yeah. That’s an unreasonable list of demands.
I believe prostitution should be legal hopefully to get rid of the damned pimps who beat and or attempt to hold their women hostage. If nothing else I believe locking up the women is like locking up an addict-it really does nothing to solve the problem. I'm also pretty anti-death penalty unless we're talking someone like Hannibal Lecter. It's torture and cruel punishment to keep a prisoner on death row as long as we do. It costs us more to execute a criminal than to give him life. With all the appeals many die before they even get to the lethal injection. And free education-is that not what Sanders spoke of? A white Jewish man. But if it's BLM that's different. I believe some are unrealistic but I wouldn't call these people terrorists either. I think it's a common tactic in negotiation. You shoot for the stars so to speak and then leave room for compromise. You don't go for too low goals or compromise will make them even lower, kwim?
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I really have no strong position regarding the death penalty. I don’t think it does anything to deter crime, though.
Sanders really isn’t the epitome of a Jewish man. I actually would’ve voted for Trump if Sanders had been the candidate because of his anti-Istael position and his socialist ideas. I even think that at some level he’s a self-hating Jew. Joseph Lieberman, Mike Bloomberg, those are Jews I can get behind and support. Bernie? Not even a little. I think it’s not viable in America to offer free education and healthcare for all. So I’m not being inconsistent by claiming those demands are unreasonable. I’ve been saying that since Bernie tried for the presidency in 2016.
And defunding the police? Idiotic at best.
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Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:12 am
I wouldn’t jump to call them “terrorists’, but yeah. That’s an unreasonable list of demands.
I believe prostitution should be legal hopefully to get rid of the damned pimps who beat and or attempt to hold their women hostage. If nothing else I believe locking up the women is like locking up an addict-it really does nothing to solve the problem. I'm also pretty anti-death penalty unless we're talking someone like Hannibal Lecter. It's torture and cruel punishment to keep a prisoner on death row as long as we do. It costs us more to execute a criminal than to give him life. With all the appeals many die before they even get to the lethal injection. And free education-is that not what Sanders spoke of? A white Jewish man. But if it's BLM that's different. I believe some are unrealistic but I wouldn't call these people terrorists either. I think it's a common tactic in negotiation. You shoot for the stars so to speak and then leave room for compromise. You don't go for too low goals or compromise will make them even lower, kwim?
I'd rather vote for a cup of five week old coffee over Trump. I felt Sanders was more intelligent than Biden but I didn't like his policies either. My point is half these "demands" were at one time or another said by white people. So I'm not sure why we're negotiating with terrorists. I do agree with you these policies are unrealistic. My understanding of defunding the police is we put more money into social programs, education for the police, helping people in the neighborhoods, preventing crime. I think BLM needs to explain exactly what they mean by police defunding. I would like to see the police treated on an ongoing basis for PTSD and racial profiling. I believe much of their problems come from seeing too much and assuming everyone in a certain situation is a low down bastard. I saw that on one incident involving a policeman and my son, then 11 years old. I don't blame the men and women for being jaded or profiling. but sometimes they are incorrect in their judgments and it has to be addressed.
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Momto2boys973 wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:12 am
I wouldn’t jump to call them “terrorists’, but yeah. That’s an unreasonable list of demands.
Hawk Newsome, the president of Greater New York Black Lives Matter, threatened to "burn down this system" if "the country doesn't give us what we want" in an interview Wednesday with FOX News host Martha MacCallum.

When you make demands and threaten to commit more acts of violence if they're not met, that is terrorism.

should everyone burn down cities, seize federal property, vandalize and loot until they get whatever policies they want enacted? that's not how this works. they can go vote, they can peacefully protest, giving them what they want with no consideration for other citizens just to make them stop is a terrible precedent to set. Never negotiate with terrorists.
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Oh, I agree. As I said, I think jumping to call them “terrorists” is pretty uncalled for. ISIS showing videos of them decapitating people and threatening more unless their “demands” are met are terrorists. People protesting in the streets and claiming what they want- not “terrorists”, regardless of how ridiculous those demands are or if it ends up becoming violent.
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Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:13 am
Momto2boys973 wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:34 am
I really have no strong position regarding the death penalty. I don’t think it does anything to deter crime, though.
Sanders really isn’t the epitome of a Jewish man. I actually would’ve voted for Trump if Sanders had been the candidate because of his anti-Istael position and his socialist ideas. I even think that at some level he’s a self-hating Jew. Joseph Lieberman, Mike Bloomberg, those are Jews I can get behind and support. Bernie? Not even a little. I think it’s not viable in America to offer free education and healthcare for all. So I’m not being inconsistent by claiming those demands are unreasonable. I’ve been saying that since Bernie tried for the presidency in 2016.
And defunding the police? Idiotic at best.
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Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:25 am


I believe prostitution should be legal hopefully to get rid of the damned pimps who beat and or attempt to hold their women hostage. If nothing else I believe locking up the women is like locking up an addict-it really does nothing to solve the problem. I'm also pretty anti-death penalty unless we're talking someone like Hannibal Lecter. It's torture and cruel punishment to keep a prisoner on death row as long as we do. It costs us more to execute a criminal than to give him life. With all the appeals many die before they even get to the lethal injection. And free education-is that not what Sanders spoke of? A white Jewish man. But if it's BLM that's different. I believe some are unrealistic but I wouldn't call these people terrorists either. I think it's a common tactic in negotiation. You shoot for the stars so to speak and then leave room for compromise. You don't go for too low goals or compromise will make them even lower, kwim?
I'd rather vote for a cup of five week old coffee over Trump. I felt Sanders was more intelligent than Biden but I didn't like his policies either. My point is half these "demands" were at one time or another said by white people. So I'm not sure why we're negotiating with terrorists. I do agree with you these policies are unrealistic. My understanding of defunding the police is we put more money into social programs, education for the police, helping people in the neighborhoods, preventing crime. I think BLM needs to explain exactly what they mean by police defunding. I would like to see the police treated on an ongoing basis for PTSD and racial profiling. I believe much of their problems come from seeing too much and assuming everyone in a certain situation is a low down bastard. I saw that on one incident involving a policeman and my son, then 11 years old. I don't blame the men and women for being jaded or profiling. but sometimes they are incorrect in their judgments and it has to be addressed.
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