BLM Mural coming to 5th Avenue

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DSamuels wrote: Wed Jul 01, 2020 11:53 pm
AZLizardLady wrote: Thu Jun 25, 2020 8:57 pm Why not an actual mural on an approved wall or building that isn't going to be driven over, snow and rain ruining the design of over the years (I've been to NYC multiple times and many of the streets are in dire need of repaving and road work), and that won't eventually wear down due to foot and car traffic? That people can actually enjoy seeing vs walking/driving over for a very short amount of time?

Some murals are absolutely beautiful and insane works of art. THIS will not do what a mural on a wall or building could do IMO.

I get the point, however, if it's being done in front of Trump Tower as many still believe the man is a racist.

I suppose whatever drives them....
They did one in Cincinnati on the street too. They had a different artist do each letter. Too bad it will be ruined by driving on it.

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Now that is true artistry, unlike the big bold gold letters of the DC one and others. Think how many people could appreciate that one in Cincinnati for years to come if it had been put on a building(s) wall. This one is going to turn to crap after a few winters of snow, sleet, snow plows, heavy traffic.
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SouthernIslander wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:04 pm
Mr.Smile wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 1:15 pm
SouthernIslander wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 12:37 pm

And a Trump has too but yet people will still vote him too.
Trump is the president of the USA, of course he's going to be in the news cycle and I won't criticize you for talking about him.

Here's the difference, I dont think republicans deny that their representatives are politically motivated. But democrats frequently do deny that, more importantly democrats refuse to acknowledge that the vast majority of MSM is biased and also has a political agenda. if everyone could acknowledge that, its would be amazing. unfortunately, the vast majority of people participating in BLM protests really think democrats in power care.

The problem I have with this is this movement is its causing permanent racial discord in this country from both sides and its not just an organic grassroots movement, its being cultivated by those in positions of power through propaganda and funding. this petty divisive move to paint BLM on the street in front of trump tower and in DC is a perfect example of how this is just a game to democrats.

I wish people in this movement would check their emotions and think rationally for a moment

one- their original claim for anger was racially profiled police brutality- ok is there evidence the cop who murdered george floyd was motivated by race? no, it's just assumed ok, so where is this idea coming form? a big part is the facts that those in power discuss. including only highlighting stories involving POC as victims and police as white. CNN literally lightened george zimmerman's skin to make viewers think he was white. the media barely covers cases where victims are white or cops are POC.

is there still reason to be angry he was killed by those who should protect us? yes. So, justice would be him being charged, and he was. so why did the arson, looting and protests continue?

two- grievances with police brutality evolved to general discontent in black communities with multiple issues, who are the majority of elected officials in their communities? they're democrats. why don't they start by holding their own elected officials accountable? some of these people have been in office for decades and they keep voting the min even when they have failed them. trump has little control over local issues, these protesters are barking up the wrong tree, but of course the mayors, governors and congress people don't want them to know that!

third, anger does not excuse the rioting, looting and violence that has erupted from all of this and the demand list is unreasonable, most people I know are pissed off and lost all sympathy they originally had once this was no longer about police reform (democrats rejected the republicans police reform measures)and became a socialist Marxist movement.

so I am disgusted that democrats and the media are willing to sow racial discord, chaos and weaken our nation just to try to score political points with no real intention of doing anything more than painting murals and pressuring corporations to virtue signal.

As far as the mural; that is between NY and the their community that Trump has burned a lot of bridges long before he became President from my understanding. Its not my business what they paint on their own streets. I don’t care about stuff like that.
86% of people living in Manhattan voted for Clinton in 2016, so people in his own town don't like him all that much. And I don't get the concern from people not living in NYC either.

The area around his apartment building is really ugly. It has all these random huge cement things and barriers big black SUV's and dozens of police all over the place 24/7.
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Lemons wrote: Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:34 pm
SouthernIslander wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:04 pm
Mr.Smile wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 1:15 pm

Trump is the president of the USA, of course he's going to be in the news cycle and I won't criticize you for talking about him.

Here's the difference, I dont think republicans deny that their representatives are politically motivated. But democrats frequently do deny that, more importantly democrats refuse to acknowledge that the vast majority of MSM is biased and also has a political agenda. if everyone could acknowledge that, its would be amazing. unfortunately, the vast majority of people participating in BLM protests really think democrats in power care.

The problem I have with this is this movement is its causing permanent racial discord in this country from both sides and its not just an organic grassroots movement, its being cultivated by those in positions of power through propaganda and funding. this petty divisive move to paint BLM on the street in front of trump tower and in DC is a perfect example of how this is just a game to democrats.

I wish people in this movement would check their emotions and think rationally for a moment

one- their original claim for anger was racially profiled police brutality- ok is there evidence the cop who murdered george floyd was motivated by race? no, it's just assumed ok, so where is this idea coming form? a big part is the facts that those in power discuss. including only highlighting stories involving POC as victims and police as white. CNN literally lightened george zimmerman's skin to make viewers think he was white. the media barely covers cases where victims are white or cops are POC.

is there still reason to be angry he was killed by those who should protect us? yes. So, justice would be him being charged, and he was. so why did the arson, looting and protests continue?

two- grievances with police brutality evolved to general discontent in black communities with multiple issues, who are the majority of elected officials in their communities? they're democrats. why don't they start by holding their own elected officials accountable? some of these people have been in office for decades and they keep voting the min even when they have failed them. trump has little control over local issues, these protesters are barking up the wrong tree, but of course the mayors, governors and congress people don't want them to know that!

third, anger does not excuse the rioting, looting and violence that has erupted from all of this and the demand list is unreasonable, most people I know are pissed off and lost all sympathy they originally had once this was no longer about police reform (democrats rejected the republicans police reform measures)and became a socialist Marxist movement.

so I am disgusted that democrats and the media are willing to sow racial discord, chaos and weaken our nation just to try to score political points with no real intention of doing anything more than painting murals and pressuring corporations to virtue signal.

As far as the mural; that is between NY and the their community that Trump has burned a lot of bridges long before he became President from my understanding. Its not my business what they paint on their own streets. I don’t care about stuff like that.
86% of people living in Manhattan voted for Clinton in 2016, so people in his own town don't like him all that much. And I don't get the concern from people not living in NYC either.

The area around his apartment building is really ugly. It has all these random huge cement things and barriers big black SUV's and dozens of police all over the place 24/7.
I don’t either. I have my hands full worrying about what’s going on in Texas with COVID to get all in NY’s business.

Why all the police? I’m sure his building is ugly enough with Trump’s god awful taste.
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hmmm666 wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:33 pm
Mr.Smile wrote: Thu Jul 02, 2020 5:22 pm
Lemons wrote: Thu Jul 02, 2020 4:55 pm

It simply says black lives matter. How is that forcing someone's beliefs down their throat. Who doesn't agree that they matter? And the paint is temporary. It won't be there forever.
oh really, then if you're against the patriot act you're not a patriot, if you oppose Pro Life messaging, you're for death, if you're against Executive Order 13769, titled Protecting the Nation from Foreign Terrorist Entry into the United States (Travel Ban) you're just a terrorist who wants america harmed.

Give me a break, BLM is a Marxist group,, they are clearly aligned with the democrats. the demands they have made have nothing to do with black lives or police brutality. The fact the left thinks painting BLM on 5th ave is an attack against Trump only supports this is a partisan movement. Just look at their twitter feed and you can clearly see its partisan, so much so they are tweeting to Biden to choose a black female VP, almost like BLM is a partisan Dem group, they retweet far left people, groups and politicians:









What’s wrong with those tweets?
Lemons said "its just simply aying BLM", how is that shoving beleifs down their throats?

I was showing its not just saying BLM, its an entire political agenda.
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They have to protect the building even when he isn’t there, probably because it’s so public/accessible and would be such an attractive symbolic target for a would-be domestic terrorist (if they weren’t all on his side anyway). It’s so bizarre, you’re just walking through NYC and then bam, there’s cops in full gear loaded for bear. Really unnerving. There was a big fuss early on about how much all the extra security was costing NY & demands for the federal gov’t to pay for it but there’s been so much to be disgusted about with him that I haven’t really kept up with how that played out.
SouthernIslander wrote: Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:08 pm
Lemons wrote: Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:34 pm
SouthernIslander wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:04 pm


As far as the mural; that is between NY and the their community that Trump has burned a lot of bridges long before he became President from my understanding. Its not my business what they paint on their own streets. I don’t care about stuff like that.
86% of people living in Manhattan voted for Clinton in 2016, so people in his own town don't like him all that much. And I don't get the concern from people not living in NYC either.

The area around his apartment building is really ugly. It has all these random huge cement things and barriers big black SUV's and dozens of police all over the place 24/7.
I don’t either. I have my hands full worrying about what’s going on in Texas with COVID to get all in NY’s business.

Why all the police? I’m sure his building is ugly enough with Trump’s god awful taste.
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