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pinkbutterfly66 wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:38 pm
LittleMermaid wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:23 pm you have got to be so delusional to think NONE of the violence is coming from the left lol. they are responsible for the majority. you all started the god damn riots and looting.

do you deny this?

"Two attorneys and a ukulele-playing street musician are indicted and face LIFE in prison for 'throwing molotov cocktails at NYPD vehicles' and 'endangering the lives of George Floyd protesters"

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... tests.html

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A second man has been charged with murder in the death of retired police captain David Dorn, who was shot dead in front of a pawn shop by suspected looters during a night of violent protests.

Mark Jackson, 22, was charged with second-degree murder, robbery, burglary, stealing, and three counts of armed criminal action.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -Dorn.html

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A teenage sister of the Iowa woman killed at a George Floyd protest recorded a heartbreaking video hours after hearing the news — screaming, “You’re so mad at the police, you guys killed my sister!”

https://nypost.com/2020/06/03/sister-of ... ing-video/
None of those people are claiming to be antifa as far as I know. They were operating by themselves. And as far as the shooting of Italia Kelly, the police haven't arrested anybody yet. That very well could have been those white supremacists. They were shooting into crowds. They admitted it.
antifa isn't a well organized group anymore than these supposed "boogaloo" people. both are ideologies with some organization and some lone actors. it's not like there is some registry, its a belief system and yes, antifa is prominent in the BLM protests but lets be real, most of these george floyd protestors/looters aren't antifa but the vast majority ARE A PART OF BLM, another movement/ideology. people's association with BLM makes them just as culpable as the individuals trying to destroy the gov and police in "boogaloo" associations.

I am not going to sit here and accept lefties trying to pin random "boogaloo" libertarians/anarchists on trump/trump supporters and republicans when they are anti-gov. anti 2 party system, anti police. and not even a part of the republican party! then let all of you worm out of accepting antifa and blm violence as a part of the democrat party, when democrat leaders are openly accepting and encouraging them and their behavior!

that is so hypocritical.
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LittleMermaid wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:06 pm Steven Carrillo is an anti police, pro gun libertarian opposed to the 2 party system. He supported neither trump nor biden but some libertarian guy. He re-posted that viral MSM propaganda video of the 75 year old man being pushed down by a cop on face book shortly before murdering two cops.

So he actually doesn't fit neatly into either side but I can just as easily say he's one of your own terrorists since your side is fueling anti cop rhetoric which is what inspired him to murder the two officers. he is also Hispanic, not a white supremacist like many on your side are claiming. so easy to be a lazy MSM sheep. much harder to do your own research.
He’s been linked to the boogaloo movement. They found a vest in his van with a boogaloo patch sewn on it. He also wrote “boog”, short for boogaloo and “I became unreasonable “ , which is a boogaloo meme, in his own blood. He also wrote stop the duopoly” which is goes with his own views against a two party system.

And so he fits perfectly with the right wing extremists that he hung out with.

This isn’t a contest. It’s about facts and lies from our government. Facts are most of the looters and arsonists were a tiny minority of the protesters who got out of hand or took advantage of the situation. The agitators were right wing extremists looking for trouble.

Antifa usually only shows up to cause trouble at white supremacy rallies or at speeches given by right wing speakers. Trump and Barr either purposely lied or were wrong. They need to correct their errors.
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LittleMermaid wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:23 pm you have got to be so delusional to think NONE of the violence is coming from the left lol. they are responsible for the majority. you all started the god damn riots and looting.

do you deny this?

"Two attorneys and a ukulele-playing street musician are indicted and face LIFE in prison for 'throwing molotov cocktails at NYPD vehicles' and 'endangering the lives of George Floyd protesters"

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... tests.html

Do you deny this?

A second man has been charged with murder in the death of retired police captain David Dorn, who was shot dead in front of a pawn shop by suspected looters during a night of violent protests.

Mark Jackson, 22, was charged with second-degree murder, robbery, burglary, stealing, and three counts of armed criminal action.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -Dorn.html

Do you deny this?

A teenage sister of the Iowa woman killed at a George Floyd protest recorded a heartbreaking video hours after hearing the news — screaming, “You’re so mad at the police, you guys killed my sister!”

https://nypost.com/2020/06/03/sister-of ... ing-video/
How are any of these crimes “the left”? It looks like they are random people who committed horrific crimes.

You are confusing these with organizations that dressed a certain way, carried massive guns and whose sole purpose was to go to these rallies to cause death and destruction. People from the boogaloo movement were charged with terrorism for preplanning a bomb attack. People from the boogaloo movement have been charged with murder. To be fair, most of them weren’t going to kill or destroy but they were there to cause trouble.

These people have nothing to do with Trump supporters.
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Lemons wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:52 pm
LittleMermaid wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:23 pm you have got to be so delusional to think NONE of the violence is coming from the left lol. they are responsible for the majority. you all started the god damn riots and looting.

do you deny this?

"Two attorneys and a ukulele-playing street musician are indicted and face LIFE in prison for 'throwing molotov cocktails at NYPD vehicles' and 'endangering the lives of George Floyd protesters"

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... tests.html

Do you deny this?

A second man has been charged with murder in the death of retired police captain David Dorn, who was shot dead in front of a pawn shop by suspected looters during a night of violent protests.

Mark Jackson, 22, was charged with second-degree murder, robbery, burglary, stealing, and three counts of armed criminal action.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -Dorn.html

Do you deny this?

A teenage sister of the Iowa woman killed at a George Floyd protest recorded a heartbreaking video hours after hearing the news — screaming, “You’re so mad at the police, you guys killed my sister!”

https://nypost.com/2020/06/03/sister-of ... ing-video/
How are any of these crimes “the left”? It looks like they are random people who committed horrific crimes.

You are confusing these with organizations that dressed a certain way, carried massive guns and whose sole purpose was to go to these rallies to cause death and destruction. People from the boogaloo movement were charged with terrorism for preplanning a bomb attack. People from the boogaloo movement have been charged with murder. To be fair, most of them weren’t going to kill or destroy but they were there to cause trouble.

These people have nothing to do with Trump supporters.
BLM IS AN ORGANIZATION and an IDEOLOGY. everyone participating in it is a part of it and representative of the left just as much as any random boogaloo anarchists represent the right. there is no "boogaloo" organization. its an inconsistent ideology with some random groups making social media threads. its is very unpopular even on the far right. how many right wing people are in favor of defunding the police? thats what your side supports, you have more in common with them. thats what these people support, abolishing the 2 party system and police.
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LittleMermaid wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 11:01 pm
Lemons wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:52 pm
LittleMermaid wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:23 pm you have got to be so delusional to think NONE of the violence is coming from the left lol. they are responsible for the majority. you all started the god damn riots and looting.

do you deny this?

"Two attorneys and a ukulele-playing street musician are indicted and face LIFE in prison for 'throwing molotov cocktails at NYPD vehicles' and 'endangering the lives of George Floyd protesters"

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... tests.html

Do you deny this?

A second man has been charged with murder in the death of retired police captain David Dorn, who was shot dead in front of a pawn shop by suspected looters during a night of violent protests.

Mark Jackson, 22, was charged with second-degree murder, robbery, burglary, stealing, and three counts of armed criminal action.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -Dorn.html

Do you deny this?

A teenage sister of the Iowa woman killed at a George Floyd protest recorded a heartbreaking video hours after hearing the news — screaming, “You’re so mad at the police, you guys killed my sister!”

https://nypost.com/2020/06/03/sister-of ... ing-video/
How are any of these crimes “the left”? It looks like they are random people who committed horrific crimes.

You are confusing these with organizations that dressed a certain way, carried massive guns and whose sole purpose was to go to these rallies to cause death and destruction. People from the boogaloo movement were charged with terrorism for preplanning a bomb attack. People from the boogaloo movement have been charged with murder. To be fair, most of them weren’t going to kill or destroy but they were there to cause trouble.

These people have nothing to do with Trump supporters.
BLM IS AN ORGANIZATION and an IDEOLOGY. everyone participating in it is a part of it and representative of the left just as much as any random boogaloo anarchists represent the right. there is no "boogaloo" organization. its an inconsistent ideology with some random groups making social media threads. its is very unpopular even on the far right. how many right wing people are in favor of defunding the police? thats what your side supports, you have more in common with them. thats what these people support, abolishing the 2 party system and police.
Are you claiming these people are members of BLM, that they did these crimes on their behalf? No, everyone participating in a protest does not support BLM, that’s ridiculous. Plenty of people protest a specific thing, like a black man strangled to death by police but have no interest in the BLM.

The men who have been linked to boogaloo have been linked for a reason. True, they aren’t an organization, just a loose movement but have a specific goal which is civil war. They speak through social media about violent uprisings against the government. They are an extreme right wing movement that isn’t very big.

Antifa is similar in that it’s a movement, mostly through social media, but its goal is to right white supremacists and out members of groups like KKK. Not so big either and not popular.

I hope you are at least able to say you don’t agree with the violence perpetuated with this right wing group. And after these murders and bomb threats Trump should be looking into naming boogaloo a terrorist movement. Same as antifa.
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Las Vegas police officer shot in head during protest is paralyzed from neck down and on a ventilator.'

Prosecutors have charged a 20-year-old man with deliberately shooting Mikalonis during the protest, one of hundreds being held across the nation. A judge who reviewed evidence at June 5 court hearing said that police video shows Edgar Samaniego “walking by, taking out a gun and firing ... at officers.”

https://www.kmov.com/news/las-vegas-pol ... 6aa24.html
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pinkbutterfly66 wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:50 pm
LittleMermaid wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:42 pm
pinkbutterfly66 wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:34 pm This is what the GOP has created by not passing gun regulations. These psychos think they can act with impunity and intimidate people and so far they're right. These people are terrorists, plain and simple.
kiss any chance of guns being banned goodbye. thank god we have the 2nd amendment since democrats want to set their feral minions out to rob, burn down buildings and kill people while simultaneously defunding the police. people need a way to defend themselves. gun sales are soaring.
Automatic weapons can and have been banned. The 2nd Amendment doesn't mean you can own any kind of weapon nor does it mean that the government cannot regulate who can own a weapon. And the problem isn't the average hunter or homeowner who has a handgun. The problem is the psychos who own arsenals. The problem is these military style weapons that never should have been allowed to be sold in the consumer market because they are weapons designed to slaughter as many people as possible quickly. We saw that at Sandy Hook. We saw that in Las Vegas. We saw that in Colorado at the movie theater. We saw that at Florida at Parkland HS. These class of weapons need to be banned period. Get these banned and the furor over gun control will quiet down and you little morons who think this is the wild west can shoot tin cans off of fences all the f**k you want. The rest of us are just trying to prevent the next Sandy Hook, for fucks sake.
The laws are there already. All you do gooders won't let the cops do their jobs. Social workers get in the way. Parents can't get any help for their psycho kids. Hospitals don't report their psych patients to the Feds as they are technically supposed to. Ergo, the psychos can pass a background check.

An automatic gun is outlawed unless it was grandfathered in 1986. Automatic can fire off as many rounds as the magazine holds with just pressing the trigger once. Semi auto only fires one bullet at a time.

It's all bullshit that gun manufacturers design guns to slaughter as many people as possible
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LittleMermaid wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 11:01 pm
Lemons wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:52 pm
LittleMermaid wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:23 pm you have got to be so delusional to think NONE of the violence is coming from the left lol. they are responsible for the majority. you all started the god damn riots and looting.

do you deny this?

"Two attorneys and a ukulele-playing street musician are indicted and face LIFE in prison for 'throwing molotov cocktails at NYPD vehicles' and 'endangering the lives of George Floyd protesters"

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... tests.html

Do you deny this?

A second man has been charged with murder in the death of retired police captain David Dorn, who was shot dead in front of a pawn shop by suspected looters during a night of violent protests.

Mark Jackson, 22, was charged with second-degree murder, robbery, burglary, stealing, and three counts of armed criminal action.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -Dorn.html

Do you deny this?

A teenage sister of the Iowa woman killed at a George Floyd protest recorded a heartbreaking video hours after hearing the news — screaming, “You’re so mad at the police, you guys killed my sister!”

https://nypost.com/2020/06/03/sister-of ... ing-video/
How are any of these crimes “the left”? It looks like they are random people who committed horrific crimes.

You are confusing these with organizations that dressed a certain way, carried massive guns and whose sole purpose was to go to these rallies to cause death and destruction. People from the boogaloo movement were charged with terrorism for preplanning a bomb attack. People from the boogaloo movement have been charged with murder. To be fair, most of them weren’t going to kill or destroy but they were there to cause trouble.

These people have nothing to do with Trump supporters.
BLM IS AN ORGANIZATION and an IDEOLOGY. everyone participating in it is a part of it and representative of the left just as much as any random boogaloo anarchists represent the right. there is no "boogaloo" organization. its an inconsistent ideology with some random groups making social media threads. its is very unpopular even on the far right. how many right wing people are in favor of defunding the police? thats what your side supports, you have more in common with them. thats what these people support, abolishing the 2 party system and police.
BLM is nothing more than a political movement trying to tear down our governmental system. Antifa is a vast loosely knitted monster with tentacles all around the world. I've said it here before, but the left wing zealots refuse to believe that George Soros and other vile billionaires from around the world are funding it so they can institute the new world order.....with them in charge, of course.

A friend of mine's husband is a Cook County Sheriff.....The Sheriff's dept knows of and has seen phone apps where Soros and his ilk are paying the rioters for every fire they start, every person they attack, especially the cops, etc. Just download this app, take a pic of what you've done, send it off and presto, you get paid.
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Lemons wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:29 pm After Trump and Barr shamelessly lied, without any evidence, that antifa was at fault for violence at protests, violent right wing extremists are being arrested for violence, terrorism and murder.

Boogaloo member Steven Carillo, a right wing extremist, was charged with murder and attempted murder for the killing and attempted murder of two officers in Santa Cruz. His companion Robert Justus was also arrested.

Boogaloo members arrested in Las Vegas and charged with Three plotting to terrorize protesters and attack other targets, including a power substation. According to a criminal complaint, they wanted to “create a chaotic and confusing scene for the upcoming protest” in order to force “the government to show its hand.”

Other men involved in the boogalo movement have been arrested in Texas, Colorado and Ohio.

Still no evidence of any organized antifa violence although a couple of them got caught stealing and looting in Texas.

Now that we have evidence of groups who sole purpose was to agitate and create violence, I hope our government will correct itself and publicly announce who is mainly behind it.
Stop with the Trump lied shit. Barr didn't lie either. He has proof antifa is responsible, big time, for the riots.

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All of this finger-pointing, especially in the direction of those who align with right-wing ideals and core beliefs, will actually get Trump reelected.

To believe that extremist groups (on BOTH sides of aisle) that include Antifa, were not at these riots, is to turn the blinders on.

That's what they ALL live for....stating they're anti fascist (or pro this and that) by displaying fascism.
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