Too many statutes of losers

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MonarchMom wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2020 9:33 am
SouthernIslander wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2020 9:20 am
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Most of these monuments are moved with the intention of relocating them to a museum or some facility they can be displayed in a historical/educational context.

I’ve never seen one destroyed, so IDK why people keep saying that.
History is field of study - not a statue. Iraq did not keep the statue of Saddam Hussein in Bagdad to preserve "history." Germany does not keep statues of Hitler so they can "learn" from them. Statues are monuments to the ideas and actions of those persons. To teach the history we preserve the actual artifacts like the death camps, battle sites, diaries and documents.

Many of the Confederate statues were erected during the Jim Crow era, and many in the 1950's in a reaction to expanded Civil Rights for Blacks. There are Confederate statues in 31 states - though most were never a part of the Confederacy. Most are not at the site of battles, but in public squares and courthouses to glorify the leaders who fought for the right to own people in slavery.
I’m sorry I’m confused. Are you quoting me or Momma? I got a notification so I wasn’t sure. Didn’t want to overlook your comment if you were.
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I like John Archibald’s perspective.

https://www.al.com/news/2020/06/why-mon ... hange.html
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mommy_jules wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2020 11:15 am I like John Archibald’s perspective.

https://www.al.com/news/2020/06/why-mon ... hange.html
😍😍 Love this. There was a pastor back home that wrote a great explanation like this many years ago and I can’t find it to safe my life.
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SouthernIslander wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2020 8:40 am
Mommamia wrote: Sat Jun 13, 2020 11:25 pm History should never be destroyed, period. Things such as statues that are seen as offensive to a large segment of society could be put into a museum type building where those who want to see them can. Also how do you teach children the history of our country if you destroy that which is a part of our history.
Most of these monuments are moved with the intention of relocating them to a museum or some facility they can be displayed in a historical/educational context.

I’ve never seen one destroyed, so IDK why people keep saying that.
I can't get pics to post. Here are several. Also wikipedia has a whole list of statues that were either removed or destroyed.

https://www.alreporter.com/2020/06/01/p ... irmingham/

https://nypost.com/2020/06/11/confedera ... -protests/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/ ... -richmond/

https://www.motherjones.com/crime-justi ... r-removed/
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SouthernIslander wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2020 8:40 am
Mommamia wrote: Sat Jun 13, 2020 11:25 pm History should never be destroyed, period. Things such as statues that are seen as offensive to a large segment of society could be put into a museum type building where those who want to see them can. Also how do you teach children the history of our country if you destroy that which is a part of our history.
Most of these monuments are moved with the intention of relocating them to a museum or some facility they can be displayed in a historical/educational context.

I’ve never seen one destroyed, so IDK why people keep saying that.
I can't get pics to post. Here are several. Also wikipedia has a whole list of statues that were either removed or destroyed.

https://www.alreporter.com/2020/06/01/p ... irmingham/

https://nypost.com/2020/06/11/confedera ... -protests/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/ ... -richmond/

https://www.motherjones.com/crime-justi ... r-removed/
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Mommamia wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2020 10:05 pm
SouthernIslander wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2020 8:40 am
Mommamia wrote: Sat Jun 13, 2020 11:25 pm History should never be destroyed, period. Things such as statues that are seen as offensive to a large segment of society could be put into a museum type building where those who want to see them can. Also how do you teach children the history of our country if you destroy that which is a part of our history.
Most of these monuments are moved with the intention of relocating them to a museum or some facility they can be displayed in a historical/educational context.

I’ve never seen one destroyed, so IDK why people keep saying that.
I can't get pics to post. Here are several. Also wikipedia has a whole list of statues that were either removed or destroyed.

https://www.alreporter.com/2020/06/01/p ... irmingham/

https://nypost.com/2020/06/11/confedera ... -protests/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/ ... -richmond/

https://www.motherjones.com/crime-justi ... r-removed/
Oh you’re taking about people vandalizing the statues. I was talking about initiatives managed by the local government.
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SouthernIslander wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2020 10:11 pm
Mommamia wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2020 10:05 pm
SouthernIslander wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2020 8:40 am

Most of these monuments are moved with the intention of relocating them to a museum or some facility they can be displayed in a historical/educational context.

I’ve never seen one destroyed, so IDK why people keep saying that.
I can't get pics to post. Here are several. Also wikipedia has a whole list of statues that were either removed or destroyed.

https://www.alreporter.com/2020/06/01/p ... irmingham/

https://nypost.com/2020/06/11/confedera ... -protests/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/ ... -richmond/

https://www.motherjones.com/crime-justi ... r-removed/
Oh you’re taking about people vandalizing the statues. I was talking about initiatives managed by the local government.
Vandalizing a statue by pulling it down, or removing the head of one, is destruction. I would say that the destroyed ones never get fixed, but end up in a dump somewhere.
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Mommamia wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2020 10:18 pm
SouthernIslander wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2020 10:11 pm
Mommamia wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2020 10:05 pm

I can't get pics to post. Here are several. Also wikipedia has a whole list of statues that were either removed or destroyed.

https://www.alreporter.com/2020/06/01/p ... irmingham/

https://nypost.com/2020/06/11/confedera ... -protests/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/ ... -richmond/

https://www.motherjones.com/crime-justi ... r-removed/
Oh you’re taking about people vandalizing the statues. I was talking about initiatives managed by the local government.
Vandalizing a statue by pulling it down, or removing the head of one, is destruction. I would say that the destroyed ones never get fixed, but end up in a dump somewhere.
They are able to repair a good bit of them from what I know but it’s not impossible I guess.
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pinkbutterfly66 wrote: Sat Jun 13, 2020 6:28 pm His base are confederate flag waving racist morons. They don't want the statues to go because they like the reminder, I guess that their ancestors once owned slaves. Makes them feel more special, I guess, even if they live in a trailer park.
An “embarrassed” Ben Affleck admitted on Tuesday that he tried to conceal his slave-owning ancestors from the PBS documentary series “Finding Your Roots” after the disclosure was made earlier this week in hacked Sony emails.

“I felt embarrassed,” Affleck wrote on Facebook. “The very thought left a bad taste in my mouth.”

https://variety.com/2015/biz/news/ben-a ... 201477075/

for all you know, you have slave owner ancestors.
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