Re: Trump signals growing weariness with ‘social distancing’ and other steps advocated by health officials
Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 1:27 pm
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How do you not understand the overwhelming responsibility a leader has in not passing bad information to people?Valentina327 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 7:48 amYes, Trump is at fault for an individuals stupidity now too. It's natural selection at work would be my summary.DSamuels wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:23 amNo, they didn’t. First, both medications are only available by prescription. They took pills used to treat aquarium water with a similar name.
Headline from CNN: Fearing coronavirus, Arizona man dies after taking a form of chloroquine used to treat aquariums
Add that to the list. They crack me up. They accuse Trump of withholding information constantly, he shares something with the country that's hopeful, and he's getting lambasted for being transparent. Again, not able to hold a congruous thought if their lives depended on it. They're all certifiable.
Lemons wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 1:30 pmHow do you not understand the overwhelming responsibility a leader has in not passing bad information to people?Valentina327 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 7:48 amYes, Trump is at fault for an individuals stupidity now too. It's natural selection at work would be my summary.DSamuels wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:23 am
No, they didn’t. First, both medications are only available by prescription. They took pills used to treat aquarium water with a similar name.
Headline from CNN: Fearing coronavirus, Arizona man dies after taking a form of chloroquine used to treat aquariums
Add that to the list. They crack me up. They accuse Trump of withholding information constantly, he shares something with the country that's hopeful, and he's getting lambasted for being transparent. Again, not able to hold a congruous thought if their lives depended on it. They're all certifiable.
Natural selection? That would be Trump's base that is buying up all sorts of the drug. maybe that natural selection will mean fewer "stupid" people voting for an incompetent leader in November, maybe that's the upside to this.
When it's the cocktail that's being used, how do you figure he's "passing bad information"? In what universe is that an accurate statement to make? He's not telling anyone to go out and find these two drugs off the street and take them. Good Lord. Do you and your ilk ever listen to yourselves?Lemons wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 1:30 pmHow do you not understand the overwhelming responsibility a leader has in not passing bad information to people?Valentina327 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 7:48 amYes, Trump is at fault for an individuals stupidity now too. It's natural selection at work would be my summary.DSamuels wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:23 am
No, they didn’t. First, both medications are only available by prescription. They took pills used to treat aquarium water with a similar name.
Headline from CNN: Fearing coronavirus, Arizona man dies after taking a form of chloroquine used to treat aquariums
Add that to the list. They crack me up. They accuse Trump of withholding information constantly, he shares something with the country that's hopeful, and he's getting lambasted for being transparent. Again, not able to hold a congruous thought if their lives depended on it. They're all certifiable.
Natural selection? That would be Trump's base that is buying up all sorts of the drug. maybe that natural selection will mean fewer "stupid" people voting for an incompetent leader in November, maybe that's the upside to this.
cgd5112 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:01 am It’s bc too many Americans are alarmists, reactionists, and even idiots.They hear anecdotal information and they make a leap that these meds area cure. Even those who do understand the information, under such dire circumstances, panic react.
Sadly, too many Americans do not understand basic science. They do not understand the difference between treatments and cures. They do not understand the difference between case studies and random studies,. They do not understand that a study has to go through phased trials to prove efficacy.
Many of the same science deniers are now believing that these meds are cures bc trump tweeted about them and made an announcement about it.
I agree that trump should be transparent and give people hope. Telling the public GM and Ford have the go to make vents is hope. Telling the public that the fed gov will do every in its power to distribute resources to every state ( regardless of political leanings, and set his ego aside , to show and encourage unity), and make every effort to provide the resources to protect healthcare workers,families, and patients is giving hope. He then should step aside every time, and field healthcare questions to Dr. Fauci and not tweet about anything medical that he clearly does not understand. Instead he uses these press conferences as a surrogate for his feed-my-ego rallies bc his ego is going through adulation/validation withdrawals.
He should not get on a tweeting rant shit talking about governors. He should pull up his big boy panties and rise above any criticism, instead of acting like a fucken middle schooler that feels he has something to prove.
If he actually understands the charts he touts, he should continue to encourage physical distancing, limiting travel for non essential people to grocery shopping, pharmacy pick ups , etc.; bc if he does understand and he still wants to go back to business as usual by Easter, then he really doesn’t give a f**k about people’s lives, and he’s just a Harry Lime for corporations.
A smart man knows his limitations. trump deludes himself into thinking he has none.
Valentina327 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 7:48 amYes, Trump is at fault for an individuals stupidity now too. It's natural selection at work would be my summary.DSamuels wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:23 am
No, they didn’t. First, both medications are only available by prescription. They took pills used to treat aquarium water with a similar name.
Headline from CNN: Fearing coronavirus, Arizona man dies after taking a form of chloroquine used to treat aquariums
Add that to the list. They crack me up. They accuse Trump of withholding information constantly, he shares something with the country that's hopeful, and he's getting lambasted for being transparent. Again, not able to hold a congruous thought if their lives depended on it. They're all certifiable.
Valentina327 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 7:09 pm I completely agree with your first sentence. Interesting that you don't find news of a medication that can treat the symptoms to be hopeful. A medication that they're going to try out in a hard hit population that's got 40% of the cases. Huh.
We live through flu season every year and some years 70,000 people die. We're up to as many as 54,000 deaths this year. The flu has been around how many years? And that's not been cured yet. We live with it. I'm definitely not expecting a cure, however, symptom treatment would be a hell of a great benefit.
cgd5112 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:01 am It’s bc too many Americans are alarmists, reactionists, and even idiots.They hear anecdotal information and they make a leap that these meds area cure. Even those who do understand the information, under such dire circumstances, panic react.
Sadly, too many Americans do not understand basic science. They do not understand the difference between treatments and cures. They do not understand the difference between case studies and random studies,. They do not understand that a study has to go through phased trials to prove efficacy.
Many of the same science deniers are now believing that these meds are cures bc trump tweeted about them and made an announcement about it.
I agree that trump should be transparent and give people hope. Telling the public GM and Ford have the go to make vents is hope. Telling the public that the fed gov will do every in its power to distribute resources to every state ( regardless of political leanings, and set his ego aside , to show and encourage unity), and make every effort to provide the resources to protect healthcare workers,families, and patients is giving hope. He then should step aside every time, and field healthcare questions to Dr. Fauci and not tweet about anything medical that he clearly does not understand. Instead he uses these press conferences as a surrogate for his feed-my-ego rallies bc his ego is going through adulation/validation withdrawals.
He should not get on a tweeting rant shit talking about governors. He should pull up his big boy panties and rise above any criticism, instead of acting like a fucken middle schooler that feels he has something to prove.
If he actually understands the charts he touts, he should continue to encourage physical distancing, limiting travel for non essential people to grocery shopping, pharmacy pick ups , etc.; bc if he does understand and he still wants to go back to business as usual by Easter, then he really doesn’t give a f**k about people’s lives, and he’s just a Harry Lime for corporations.
A smart man knows his limitations. trump deludes himself into thinking he has none.
Valentina327 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 7:48 am
Yes, Trump is at fault for an individuals stupidity now too. It's natural selection at work would be my summary.
Add that to the list. They crack me up. They accuse Trump of withholding information constantly, he shares something with the country that's hopeful, and he's getting lambasted for being transparent. Again, not able to hold a congruous thought if their lives depended on it. They're all certifiable.
Lemons wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:10 pm You keep repeating the same Fox News bullshit about the Flu. No, it’s not like the yearly flu seasons. It’s highly contagious and unlike the flu, very little is still known about it. If our country had done nothing to contain this, half of the country would be infected by the end of the year with millions of deaths. People need to stop talking about the flu after reading stupid articles on Fox News.
Valentina327 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 7:09 pm I completely agree with your first sentence. Interesting that you don't find news of a medication that can treat the symptoms to be hopeful. A medication that they're going to try out in a hard hit population that's got 40% of the cases. Huh.
We live through flu season every year and some years 70,000 people die. We're up to as many as 54,000 deaths this year. The flu has been around how many years? And that's not been cured yet. We live with it. I'm definitely not expecting a cure, however, symptom treatment would be a hell of a great benefit.
cgd5112 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:01 am It’s bc too many Americans are alarmists, reactionists, and even idiots.They hear anecdotal information and they make a leap that these meds area cure. Even those who do understand the information, under such dire circumstances, panic react.
Sadly, too many Americans do not understand basic science. They do not understand the difference between treatments and cures. They do not understand the difference between case studies and random studies,. They do not understand that a study has to go through phased trials to prove efficacy.
Many of the same science deniers are now believing that these meds are cures bc trump tweeted about them and made an announcement about it.
I agree that trump should be transparent and give people hope. Telling the public GM and Ford have the go to make vents is hope. Telling the public that the fed gov will do every in its power to distribute resources to every state ( regardless of political leanings, and set his ego aside , to show and encourage unity), and make every effort to provide the resources to protect healthcare workers,families, and patients is giving hope. He then should step aside every time, and field healthcare questions to Dr. Fauci and not tweet about anything medical that he clearly does not understand. Instead he uses these press conferences as a surrogate for his feed-my-ego rallies bc his ego is going through adulation/validation withdrawals.
He should not get on a tweeting rant shit talking about governors. He should pull up his big boy panties and rise above any criticism, instead of acting like a fucken middle schooler that feels he has something to prove.
If he actually understands the charts he touts, he should continue to encourage physical distancing, limiting travel for non essential people to grocery shopping, pharmacy pick ups , etc.; bc if he does understand and he still wants to go back to business as usual by Easter, then he really doesn’t give a f**k about people’s lives, and he’s just a Harry Lime for corporations.
A smart man knows his limitations. trump deludes himself into thinking he has none.
Valentina327 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 7:09 pm I completely agree with your first sentence. Interesting that you don't find news of a medication that can treat the symptoms to be hopeful. A medication that they're going to try out in a hard hit population that's got 40% of the cases. Huh.
We live through flu season every year and some years 70,000 people die. We're up to as many as 54,000 deaths this year. The flu has been around how many years? And that's not been cured yet. We live with it. I'm definitely not expecting a cure, however, symptom treatment would be a hell of a great benefit.
cgd5112 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:01 am It’s bc too many Americans are alarmists, reactionists, and even idiots.They hear anecdotal information and they make a leap that these meds area cure. Even those who do understand the information, under such dire circumstances, panic react.
Sadly, too many Americans do not understand basic science. They do not understand the difference between treatments and cures. They do not understand the difference between case studies and random studies,. They do not understand that a study has to go through phased trials to prove efficacy.
Many of the same science deniers are now believing that these meds are cures bc trump tweeted about them and made an announcement about it.
I agree that trump should be transparent and give people hope. Telling the public GM and Ford have the go to make vents is hope. Telling the public that the fed gov will do every in its power to distribute resources to every state ( regardless of political leanings, and set his ego aside , to show and encourage unity), and make every effort to provide the resources to protect healthcare workers,families, and patients is giving hope. He then should step aside every time, and field healthcare questions to Dr. Fauci and not tweet about anything medical that he clearly does not understand. Instead he uses these press conferences as a surrogate for his feed-my-ego rallies bc his ego is going through adulation/validation withdrawals.
He should not get on a tweeting rant shit talking about governors. He should pull up his big boy panties and rise above any criticism, instead of acting like a fucken middle schooler that feels he has something to prove.
If he actually understands the charts he touts, he should continue to encourage physical distancing, limiting travel for non essential people to grocery shopping, pharmacy pick ups , etc.; bc if he does understand and he still wants to go back to business as usual by Easter, then he really doesn’t give a f**k about people’s lives, and he’s just a Harry Lime for corporations.
A smart man knows his limitations. trump deludes himself into thinking he has none.
Valentina327 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 7:48 am
Yes, Trump is at fault for an individuals stupidity now too. It's natural selection at work would be my summary.
Add that to the list. They crack me up. They accuse Trump of withholding information constantly, he shares something with the country that's hopeful, and he's getting lambasted for being transparent. Again, not able to hold a congruous thought if their lives depended on it. They're all certifiable.
Lemons wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:10 pm You keep repeating the same Fox News bullshit about the Flu. No, it’s not like the yearly flu seasons. It’s highly contagious and unlike the flu, very little is still known about it. If our country had done nothing to contain this, half of the country would be infected by the end of the year with millions of deaths. People need to stop talking about the flu after reading stupid articles on Fox News.
Valentina327 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 7:09 pm I completely agree with your first sentence. Interesting that you don't find news of a medication that can treat the symptoms to be hopeful. A medication that they're going to try out in a hard hit population that's got 40% of the cases. Huh.
We live through flu season every year and some years 70,000 people die. We're up to as many as 54,000 deaths this year. The flu has been around how many years? And that's not been cured yet. We live with it. I'm definitely not expecting a cure, however, symptom treatment would be a hell of a great benefit.
cgd5112 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:01 am It’s bc too many Americans are alarmists, reactionists, and even idiots.They hear anecdotal information and they make a leap that these meds area cure. Even those who do understand the information, under such dire circumstances, panic react.
Sadly, too many Americans do not understand basic science. They do not understand the difference between treatments and cures. They do not understand the difference between case studies and random studies,. They do not understand that a study has to go through phased trials to prove efficacy.
Many of the same science deniers are now believing that these meds are cures bc trump tweeted about them and made an announcement about it.
I agree that trump should be transparent and give people hope. Telling the public GM and Ford have the go to make vents is hope. Telling the public that the fed gov will do every in its power to distribute resources to every state ( regardless of political leanings, and set his ego aside , to show and encourage unity), and make every effort to provide the resources to protect healthcare workers,families, and patients is giving hope. He then should step aside every time, and field healthcare questions to Dr. Fauci and not tweet about anything medical that he clearly does not understand. Instead he uses these press conferences as a surrogate for his feed-my-ego rallies bc his ego is going through adulation/validation withdrawals.
He should not get on a tweeting rant shit talking about governors. He should pull up his big boy panties and rise above any criticism, instead of acting like a fucken middle schooler that feels he has something to prove.
If he actually understands the charts he touts, he should continue to encourage physical distancing, limiting travel for non essential people to grocery shopping, pharmacy pick ups , etc.; bc if he does understand and he still wants to go back to business as usual by Easter, then he really doesn’t give a f**k about people’s lives, and he’s just a Harry Lime for corporations.
A smart man knows his limitations. trump deludes himself into thinking he has none.
AnnieArk wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:44 pmValentina327 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 7:09 pm I completely agree with your first sentence. Interesting that you don't find news of a medication that can treat the symptoms to be hopeful. A medication that they're going to try out in a hard hit population that's got 40% of the cases. Huh.
We live through flu season every year and some years 70,000 people die. We're up to as many as 54,000 deaths this year. The flu has been around how many years? And that's not been cured yet. We live with it. I'm definitely not expecting a cure, however, symptom treatment would be a hell of a great benefit.
cgd5112 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:01 am It’s bc too many Americans are alarmists, reactionists, and even idiots.They hear anecdotal information and they make a leap that these meds area cure. Even those who do understand the information, under such dire circumstances, panic react.
Sadly, too many Americans do not understand basic science. They do not understand the difference between treatments and cures. They do not understand the difference between case studies and random studies,. They do not understand that a study has to go through phased trials to prove efficacy.
Many of the same science deniers are now believing that these meds are cures bc trump tweeted about them and made an announcement about it.
I agree that trump should be transparent and give people hope. Telling the public GM and Ford have the go to make vents is hope. Telling the public that the fed gov will do every in its power to distribute resources to every state ( regardless of political leanings, and set his ego aside , to show and encourage unity), and make every effort to provide the resources to protect healthcare workers,families, and patients is giving hope. He then should step aside every time, and field healthcare questions to Dr. Fauci and not tweet about anything medical that he clearly does not understand. Instead he uses these press conferences as a surrogate for his feed-my-ego rallies bc his ego is going through adulation/validation withdrawals.
He should not get on a tweeting rant shit talking about governors. He should pull up his big boy panties and rise above any criticism, instead of acting like a fucken middle schooler that feels he has something to prove.
If he actually understands the charts he touts, he should continue to encourage physical distancing, limiting travel for non essential people to grocery shopping, pharmacy pick ups , etc.; bc if he does understand and he still wants to go back to business as usual by Easter, then he really doesn’t give a f**k about people’s lives, and he’s just a Harry Lime for corporations.
A smart man knows his limitations. trump deludes himself into thinking he has none.
This isn't the damn flu. Worst case scenarios have shown anywhere from 500,000 to over a million deaths in this country from the virus. If that happens, I'll be interested in hearing your defense of Trump.