Kathy Bates on MeToo: 'In my day, if you went to a guy’s hotel room, you knew why you were going'

[moviestar]

A pattern of behavior for Weinstein in particular was to arrange to have these women meet him at the bar or restaurant of the hotel he was at. then when they got there, the meet had been moved to his room, but there were other people there, then the other people disappear. it is manipulative and deliberate. S*x isn’t really consensual if saying no isn’t a comfortable and safe option.

Even these days women who accept the invite to a man's room know what to expect. And yet they go and mysteriously once in the room they lose their ability to say NO, they also evidently lose the capability to walk away. Shocking really, I mean they have consensual S*x then cry foul....i just don't get it.

[moviestar]

Offering someone a job for S*x is morally questionable on its own, but surely you understand how “I’ll give you a job if you have S*x with me” is different from “I’ll destroy your career if you don’t have S*x with me”?

It was consensual. They made the decision that their careers were more important than anything so they CHOSE to sleep with them. Consensual.
Unless someone threatens you with death...its consensual.

I’m trying to understand how having S*x with someone who gives that person something in return is rape. Isn’t that exactly what a prostitute does? People argue prostitution should be legal. A woman should be able to do what she wants with her body. I don’t agree with prostitution but I don’t see it as rape.

[BionicBunny]

Offering someone a job for S*x is morally questionable on its own, but surely you understand how “I’ll give you a job if you have S*x with me” is different from “I’ll destroy your career if you don’t have S*x with me”?

I’m trying to understand how having S*x with someone who gives that person something in return is rape. Isn’t that exactly what a prostitute does? People argue prostitution should be legal. A woman should be able to do what she wants with her body. I don’t agree with prostitution but I don’t see it as rape.

Both scenarios require a decision to be made from the woman. Both scenarios are morally questionable. Neither is rape.

[WellPreserved]

Offering someone a job for S*x is morally questionable on its own, but surely you understand how “I’ll give you a job if you have S*x with me” is different from “I’ll destroy your career if you don’t have S*x with me”?

I’m trying to understand how having S*x with someone who gives that person something in return is rape. Isn’t that exactly what a prostitute does? People argue prostitution should be legal. A woman should be able to do what she wants with her body. I don’t agree with prostitution but I don’t see it as rape.

Both scenarios require a decision to be made from the woman. Both scenarios are morally questionable. Neither is rape.

In most states, consent cannot be given in cases of coercion, intimidation, or threat. "Have S*x with me or your career is over; have S*x with me or I'll physically hurt you; have S*x with me or I'll kill you" are all considered equal as far as a rape charge.

[WellPreserved]

Offering someone a job for S*x is morally questionable on its own, but surely you understand how “I’ll give you a job if you have S*x with me” is different from “I’ll destroy your career if you don’t have S*x with me”?

I’m trying to understand how having S*x with someone who gives that person something in return is rape. Isn’t that exactly what a prostitute does? People argue prostitution should be legal. A woman should be able to do what she wants with her body. I don’t agree with prostitution but I don’t see it as rape.

Both scenarios require a decision to be made from the woman. Both scenarios are morally questionable. Neither is rape.

In most states, consent cannot be given in cases of coercion, intimidation, or threat. "Have S*x with me or your career is over; have S*x with me or I'll physically hurt you; have S*x with me or I'll kill you" are all considered equal as far as a rape charge.

[Pjmm]

It's one thing to know why you're going to the guy's hotel room. It's another thing when, in my case, the woman says no, gets relentlessly harassed for it and in the end is the one fired. So Idk what Ms. Bates is referring to but she's an idiot.

[BionicBunny]

Offering someone a job for S*x is morally questionable on its own, but surely you understand how “I’ll give you a job if you have S*x with me” is different from “I’ll destroy your career if you don’t have S*x with me”?

Both scenarios require a decision to be made from the woman. Both scenarios are morally questionable. Neither is rape.

In most states, consent cannot be given in cases of coercion, intimidation, or threat. "Have S*x with me or your career is over; have S*x with me or I'll physically hurt you; have S*x with me or I'll kill you" are all considered equal as far as a rape charge.

I agree with the last two being rape. IMO

[LiveWhatULove]

Me Too is also about sexual harassment, not necessarily rape. And the number of posts here, that that just casually dismiss sexual harassment, suggesting that a female should be shamed & blamed because she struggled to just walk away from a career & financial security when placed in a ILLEGAL SITUATION FROM A MALE IN POWER, is disgusting to me.

[moviestar]

coerced consent isn’t consent. it is rape.

Offering someone a job for S*x is morally questionable on its own, but surely you understand how “I’ll give you a job if you have S*x with me” is different from “I’ll destroy your career if you don’t have S*x with me”?

I’m trying to understand how having S*x with someone who gives that person something in return is rape. Isn’t that exactly what a prostitute does? People argue prostitution should be legal. A woman should be able to do what she wants with her body. I don’t agree with prostitution but I don’t see it as rape.

Both scenarios require a decision to be made from the woman. Both scenarios are morally questionable. Neither is rape.

[BionicBunny]

coerced consent isn’t consent. it is rape.

Offering someone a job for S*x is morally questionable on its own, but surely you understand how “I’ll give you a job if you have S*x with me” is different from “I’ll destroy your career if you don’t have S*x with me”?

Both scenarios require a decision to be made from the woman. Both scenarios are morally questionable. Neither is rape.

I agree that it’s morally wrong. I disagree that it’s rape even if some laws in some places call it rape. A woman has a choice and a voice. She can practice using both.