Worlds first HIV positive sperm bank

[Deleted User 1039]

And there are those who have not.

You are about 5 years behind. Do some research.

I have, thanks. It has happened and it still happens. Check the world, not just your back yard.

No, you haven’t. If you think there’s a chance of transmission when viral loads are undetectable, you are uneducated. Both of those things are facts.

[jas]

You are about 5 years behind. Do some research.

I have, thanks. It has happened and it still happens. Check the world, not just your back yard.

No, you haven’t. If you think there’s a chance of transmission when viral loads are undetectable, you are uneducated. Both of those things are facts.

Diseases mutate, also fact. You want contaminated sperm? go for it. But to do so in the name of revamping a "stigma" is asinine.

[Deleted User 1039]

I have, thanks. It has happened and it still happens. Check the world, not just your back yard.

No, you haven’t. If you think there’s a chance of transmission when viral loads are undetectable, you are uneducated. Both of those things are facts.

Diseases mutate, also fact. You want contaminated sperm? go for it. But to do so in the name of revamping a "stigma" is asinine.

Please cite your source demonstrating that there is risk. A recent source, mind you (normally I wouldn’t feel the need to specify, but you seem to have a very distant relationship with research).

If you can’t, STFU.

[Pjmm]

Don't these people take all sorts of medications and have weakened immune systems? Sorry, if I am PAYING for sperm it better be from a HEALTHY 6ft, fit Nordic athlete, organic diet, high IQ individual.

But if people want to pay for "stigmatized" sperm just to virtue signal that's on them.

Your athlete could have some recessive gene for God knows what. I'll take a normal guy who has a good sense of humor, is loving, kind and has good character. As for the bank and immune systems Idk Magic Johnson is doing well and has been for what, twenty five years? I remember thinking he wouldn't live this long. He got sick when it was still often a death sentence.

Ya, it's been just a couple years shy of 3 decades, right?

I think so. I don't remember the year he got the virus but it was the nineties. I believe he was still playing at the time.

[AllofFive19]

Your athlete could have some recessive gene for God knows what. I'll take a normal guy who has a good sense of humor, is loving, kind and has good character. As for the bank and immune systems Idk Magic Johnson is doing well and has been for what, twenty five years? I remember thinking he wouldn't live this long. He got sick when it was still often a death sentence.

Ya, it's been just a couple years shy of 3 decades, right?

I think so. I don't remember the year he got the virus but it was the nineties. I believe he was still playing at the time.

I think so too

[Deleted User 670]

Is there proof that the virus cannot be passed on through the sperm of these men? As a woman, I wouldn't even take that chance with my health or the health of my baby.

[jas]

No, you haven’t. If you think there’s a chance of transmission when viral loads are undetectable, you are uneducated. Both of those things are facts.

Diseases mutate, also fact. You want contaminated sperm? go for it. But to do so in the name of revamping a "stigma" is asinine.

Please cite your source demonstrating that there is risk. A recent source, mind you (normally I wouldn’t feel the need to specify, but you seem to have a very distant relationship with research).

If you can’t, STFU.

Feb 2019

https://www.eggdonors.asia/blog/sperm-w ... s-hiv-ivf/

Washed Sperm Testing

Unfortunately, there’s no guarantee that the washed sperm is HIV-free. Therefore, before using the sperm for assisted reproduction, the specialists test it for HIV. In fact, this is a key stage on the way to a safer conception.

PCR (polymerase chain reaction) helps analyze the sperm sample and verify that it is free of HIV. The PCR tests can vary from lab to lab as the best one to use is not established yet. After the test, the samples with negative HIV-PCR results are almost ready for assisted reproduction procedures.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4779710/

"safer", "effective" is not 100%. And washing isn't free. Are you going to pay extra and put your health into someone else's hands all in the name of erasing a stigma? I can see it if you're in a relationship - married - whatever... but random?

1 mistake, 1 screw up is all it takes. Human factor is NEVER 100%. So there's that. And you might want to go over the TOS for this group.

[Momto2boys973]

TBH, even if there was very little or no risk, it wouldn’t be my first choice. I mean, considering what it entails, why even take the bare minimum risk on something like that? I’m all for breaking stigmas, I remember when AIDS first appeared and how people with the virus faced so much rejection based on ignorance. That’s unacceptable and I’m glad many of those stigmas have disappeared now. But don’t push it to encouraging people to take unnecessary risks. More research is still needed to guarantee 100% safety.

[Deleted User 1074]

Don't these people take all sorts of medications and have weakened immune systems? Sorry, if I am PAYING for sperm it better be from a HEALTHY 6ft, fit Nordic athlete, organic diet, high IQ individual.

But if people want to pay for "stigmatized" sperm just to virtue signal that's on them.

Your athlete could have some recessive gene for God knows what. I'll take a normal guy who has a good sense of humor, is loving, kind and has good character. As for the bank and immune systems Idk Magic Johnson is doing well and has been for what, twenty five years? I remember thinking he wouldn't live this long. He got sick when it was still often a death sentence.

and I wouldnt KNOWINGLY choose someone with a recessive gene for say cystic fibrosis just to "break a stigma". I would do everything in my control to have the healthiest baby with the best genes. it doesn't have to be "would you rather", if you're paying for sperm, it becomes a product and you are perfectly justified in being discriminating.

[Pjmm]

Don't these people take all sorts of medications and have weakened immune systems? Sorry, if I am PAYING for sperm it better be from a HEALTHY 6ft, fit Nordic athlete, organic diet, high IQ individual.

But if people want to pay for "stigmatized" sperm just to virtue signal that's on them.

Your athlete could have some recessive gene for God knows what. I'll take a normal guy who has a good sense of humor, is loving, kind and has good character. As for the bank and immune systems Idk Magic Johnson is doing well and has been for what, twenty five years? I remember thinking he wouldn't live this long. He got sick when it was still often a death sentence.

and I wouldnt KNOWINGLY choose someone with a recessive gene for say cystic fibrosis just to "break a stigma". I would do everything in my control to have the healthiest baby with the best genes. it doesn't have to be "would you rather", if you're paying for sperm, it becomes a product and you are perfectly justified in being discriminating.

To me this is all hypothetical anyway since I don't want more kids. My point is I wouldn't necessarily choose an athlete. I want different characteristics for the father of my children. Also you never know. I found out, sadly that heart disease runs on my ex's side. He died very young. Too late to worry about it now. My second point was I'm not sure HIV drugs ruin a man's immune system since Magic Johnson apparently beat the odds given to him at the time. But if the virus isn't present in the sperm then it seems to me there's no more problem than what my boys face- an increased risk of heart disease. In the end we all choose what we wish. Sometimes it works. Sometimes it doesn't.