MORE WINNING: Want food stamps? Work for them.

[Deleted User 670]

So suppose you live in an area that just isn't hiring and you lost your job. You have put in applications in every business in town and no one is hiring. You're pounding the pavement and spending your days in the library applying for jobs online. Does this seem right that you don't even qualify for foodstamps?

[Deleted User 203]

There is already so much stereotyping here in society to begin with and after reading page 1 of this thread, I see where it continues.

I can get behind the work requirements and honestly, others are right in that many of those who are currently on food stamps actually already DO work to begin with.

However, these changes could potentially cut into the ability of many children who have been receiving reduced or free lunches at schools to no longer have that ability and THAT is where I have an honest problem.

How would this affect free/ reduced lunch. The application asks if you get food stamps/Medicaid. If the answer is yes you automatically qualify. Now because it is a separate program, you can still qualify if you don't get food stamps you just have to fill out the financial information, there is NOT a work requirement so how would this affect the kids?

There are many "working poor" who actually make MORE than the income limits for food stamps or other entitlement programs, and this can include the reduced/free lunch program offered at public schools.

These same folks often make too much money (again) to qualify for low-income programs yet don't have enough money to afford health care, medication, a car, and so on.

Here's some information from a website I personally trust:
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/how ... ds-in-need

And from the above story on that same website:
"If the proposed rule goes into effect, USDA analysis says 982,000 school children could see disruption in their access to free-or-reduced school meals. When it revised its proposal due to pushback, the federal government pointed out that most children would still have access to free-or-reduced school breakfast and lunch under the change. However, the government said an estimated 40,000 children — roughly the size of all public school children enrolled in Lincoln, Nebraska, would lose those meals because they lived in homes that reported too much in income and assets."

An estimated 40,000 children is still too many children, in my book, who could very easily be affected by this.

[Lemons]

On a side-note, I see the words "his ignorant base" quite often here especially and I am curious WHAT exactly stands out for those who write this rather.....well...ignorant, generalized comment.....about Trump voters that appears this way?

A simple 'because they voted for him' really isn't QUITE the answer I am seeking and because voting is a matter of choice. Citing others for voting for who *you* (anyone in general) don't care for or like as "ignorant" is again, ignorant on its own.

I'll tell you why I think this. First, a Trump poster labeled this "more winning" which is a phrase Trump's base use when they think Trump has accomplished something positive. There are already work requirements on food stamps along with many other requirements and exceptions to those requirements. This is a big show for the Trump campaign. Every move Trump makes it to ensure votes for him, not ensure what's best for the country. And I very much doubt that this will save as money as they claim it will. And note who thinks this is just so great - Trump's base.

Like you said, if children end up going hungry or even adults in a bad situation go hungry, there is no "winning".

Are they not allowed to believe that a move he and his administration is a winning move even if you or others aren't inclined to believe it is? To not have them slapped with the "ignorant" label simply because they happen to believe in and agree with him? Is it OK for them to view (and they do) those like yourself who are so opposed to so much if not everything that Trump does...as ignorant?

There are plenty of moves that the Democrat congressional lawmakers have been making that many Democrat votes feel are "winning" moves. Yet many others, including Republicans, happen to not agree.

I don't agree with quite a few aspects of these new cuts and requirements to food stamps. I think it's painted with VERY broad, almost biased strokes, and doesn't depict a reality that so many in this country are facing.

But Trump is going to do whatever he can to keep his base and just like other politicians before him, Republican or Democrat. That's how they keep their voters...playing to their base.

We've now become a country divided in many ways and one of the biggest ways we are is their side vs our side. I suppose that's how it goes but in the past few years, it just seems to have gotten worse and no, I don't blame Trump at all for that.

We voters, no matter which direction we vote, are responsible for much of what goes on in this country.

My opinion is quite a few Trump supporters are ignorant. Meaning they read some headlines, don't know a whole lot about the subjects, get their opinions from commentators from Fox and consider it news or very biased sites like Breitbart. And they honestly believe that Trump doesn't lie even with the thousands of verified lies documented. Not every person but a good amount of them.

You can agree with cutting food stamps and I understand that point of view but calling it "winning" is trashy.

[Valentina327]

So suppose you live in an area that just isn't hiring and you lost your job. You have put in applications in every business in town and no one is hiring. You're pounding the pavement and spending your days in the library applying for jobs online. Does this seem right that you don't even qualify for foodstamps?

I think those people have to do that work training program through snap if they're not working but they've been looking.

[Deleted User 203]

I'll tell you why I think this. First, a Trump poster labeled this "more winning" which is a phrase Trump's base use when they think Trump has accomplished something positive. There are already work requirements on food stamps along with many other requirements and exceptions to those requirements. This is a big show for the Trump campaign. Every move Trump makes it to ensure votes for him, not ensure what's best for the country. And I very much doubt that this will save as money as they claim it will. And note who thinks this is just so great - Trump's base.

Like you said, if children end up going hungry or even adults in a bad situation go hungry, there is no "winning".

Are they not allowed to believe that a move he and his administration is a winning move even if you or others aren't inclined to believe it is? To not have them slapped with the "ignorant" label simply because they happen to believe in and agree with him? Is it OK for them to view (and they do) those like yourself who are so opposed to so much if not everything that Trump does...as ignorant?

There are plenty of moves that the Democrat congressional lawmakers have been making that many Democrat votes feel are "winning" moves. Yet many others, including Republicans, happen to not agree.

I don't agree with quite a few aspects of these new cuts and requirements to food stamps. I think it's painted with VERY broad, almost biased strokes, and doesn't depict a reality that so many in this country are facing.

But Trump is going to do whatever he can to keep his base and just like other politicians before him, Republican or Democrat. That's how they keep their voters...playing to their base.

We've now become a country divided in many ways and one of the biggest ways we are is their side vs our side. I suppose that's how it goes but in the past few years, it just seems to have gotten worse and no, I don't blame Trump at all for that.

We voters, no matter which direction we vote, are responsible for much of what goes on in this country.

My opinion is quite a few Trump supporters are ignorant. Meaning they read some headlines, don't know a whole lot about the subjects, get their opinions from commentators from Fox and consider it news or very biased sites like Breitbart. And they honestly believe that Trump doesn't lie even with the thousands of verified lies documented. Not every person but a good amount of them.

You can agree with cutting food stamps and I understand that point of view but calling it "winning" is trashy.

I can see your point about quite a few Trump supporters but honestly, I've seen the same from quite a few Democrats, as well.

Politics are a tricky thing and with a media that primarily swings far right or far left, it's hard to know if what you're reading and hearing is fact-based or merely an op ed.

I am not sure that I would call the "winning" comment trashy as much as hurtful and because there are people in this country who are truly hard-working individuals who have been all of their adult lives (sometimes even younger) who are now facing money struggles for a large variety of reasons that have not been within their own control.

When laws go into place such as the new ones on food stamps, it hurts far more than it helps. That to me is NOT a "winning" situation.

[Lemons]

Are they not allowed to believe that a move he and his administration is a winning move even if you or others aren't inclined to believe it is? To not have them slapped with the "ignorant" label simply because they happen to believe in and agree with him? Is it OK for them to view (and they do) those like yourself who are so opposed to so much if not everything that Trump does...as ignorant?

There are plenty of moves that the Democrat congressional lawmakers have been making that many Democrat votes feel are "winning" moves. Yet many others, including Republicans, happen to not agree.

I don't agree with quite a few aspects of these new cuts and requirements to food stamps. I think it's painted with VERY broad, almost biased strokes, and doesn't depict a reality that so many in this country are facing.

But Trump is going to do whatever he can to keep his base and just like other politicians before him, Republican or Democrat. That's how they keep their voters...playing to their base.

We've now become a country divided in many ways and one of the biggest ways we are is their side vs our side. I suppose that's how it goes but in the past few years, it just seems to have gotten worse and no, I don't blame Trump at all for that.

We voters, no matter which direction we vote, are responsible for much of what goes on in this country.

My opinion is quite a few Trump supporters are ignorant. Meaning they read some headlines, don't know a whole lot about the subjects, get their opinions from commentators from Fox and consider it news or very biased sites like Breitbart. And they honestly believe that Trump doesn't lie even with the thousands of verified lies documented. Not every person but a good amount of them.

You can agree with cutting food stamps and I understand that point of view but calling it "winning" is trashy.

I can see your point about quite a few Trump supporters but honestly, I've seen the same from quite a few Democrats, as well.

Politics are a tricky thing and with a media that primarily swings far right or far left, it's hard to know if what you're reading and hearing is fact-based or merely an op ed.

I am not sure that I would call the "winning" comment trashy as much as hurtful and because there are people in this country who are truly hard-working individuals who have been all of their adult lives (sometimes even younger) who are now facing money struggles for a large variety of reasons that have not been within their own control.

When laws go into place such as the new ones on food stamps, it hurts far more than it helps. That to me is NOT a "winning" situation.

If you read news sources like the New York Times or the Wall Street Journal they make it very clear whether you are reading an Op Ed or fact based news. I don't bother reading Op Eds because there are so many news articles that I'd rather read and it would be too time consuming. Plus they don't really add anything to what a person needs to know, they are more in the entertainment division, I think.

[scemily526]

Ninety-seven percent of the SNAP participants who would be affected by this change live in poverty, and 88 percent have household incomes at or below 50 percent of the poverty level or less than $600 a month — a much larger portion than the overall average — the study said.1 day ago
Nearly 700,000 will lose food stamps with USDA work requirement change - NBC News
https://www.nbcnews.com › news › us-news › nearly-700-000-will-lose-foo...

[Deleted User 670]

Frankly, we need to expand SNAP, not cut it.

[Deleted User 203]

My opinion is quite a few Trump supporters are ignorant. Meaning they read some headlines, don't know a whole lot about the subjects, get their opinions from commentators from Fox and consider it news or very biased sites like Breitbart. And they honestly believe that Trump doesn't lie even with the thousands of verified lies documented. Not every person but a good amount of them.

You can agree with cutting food stamps and I understand that point of view but calling it "winning" is trashy.

I can see your point about quite a few Trump supporters but honestly, I've seen the same from quite a few Democrats, as well.

Politics are a tricky thing and with a media that primarily swings far right or far left, it's hard to know if what you're reading and hearing is fact-based or merely an op ed.

I am not sure that I would call the "winning" comment trashy as much as hurtful and because there are people in this country who are truly hard-working individuals who have been all of their adult lives (sometimes even younger) who are now facing money struggles for a large variety of reasons that have not been within their own control.

When laws go into place such as the new ones on food stamps, it hurts far more than it helps. That to me is NOT a "winning" situation.

If you read news sources like the New York Times or the Wall Street Journal they make it very clear whether you are reading an Op Ed or fact based news. I don't bother reading Op Eds because there are so many news articles that I'd rather read and it would be too time consuming. Plus they don't really add anything to what a person needs to know, they are more in the entertainment division, I think.

WSJ and NYT have both made boo-boos lately, though, as well.

It's just hard, IMO, to find reliable sources of news outside of AP, Reuters, and PBS.

Local news seems to even be more reliable.

[BionicBunny]

I believe they also listed volunteer work or vocational programs as an option. It also says 20 hours a week for three months over a 36 month period. That’s three years. It also gives an extension to the areas with low employment.

I'm able bodied and when I started looking for a job when my little one was starting Prek it took me over a year to find one - and not because I wasn't looking. Fortunately for us my DH makes a good income but that's not the case for everyone. I am college educated, with a good resume and excellent references, plus a long history of food service work before college and I couldn't even get a waitressing gig. Even with a comfortable financial situation, that time was discouraging, frustrating, stressful and depressing. For people less privileged than I am, I can guarantee you that adding "how am I going to feed myself/my family" to the list of things they have to worry about will be anything but good for them.

I don’t know why anyone would have a problem with this. It shouldn’t be a way of life and it is obviously about those who don’t work and are able bodied people. This will be good for them. They need to get out and work.