Trump has done plenty to warrant impeachment but

[Francee89]

Ha! That made me laugh!!

I think I agree with the members of the intelligence community who have started debating if this person can really be classified as a whistleblower. I don’t think so. Now if it were the Chief of Staff or the VP... then I’d say yeah a whistleblower. But we’ll see. Very simple to do - release the transcript of the call and see if there is quid pro quo. Then release the identity of the person making the claim.

Why would the person have to be VP or Chief of Staff in order to be a whistleblower?

And if it’s “very simple to do”, why hasn’t Trump just done that?

Not “only” those two but those were examples from the Executive Branch.

Why would they need to be a member of the executive branch to be a whistleblower?

And again, this has gone on for days - if Trump didn’t do anything wrong, why not just take the “very simple to do” path of releasing the transcript of the call? Why did the IG he appointed find the whistleblower’s complaint urgent and credible?

[Deleted User 1344]

When the transcript of the call comes out, we’ll see. This is most likely much ado about nothing. As usual.

If it truly was, they'd release the transcript and get it over with. But actively refusing to comply with the law regarding the whistleblower AND refusing to release the transcript is suspicious. Trump has told over 12,000 lies, why on earth would anybody take his word on this. He's literally wrong about everything.

I agree. He is.

[Deleted User 1344]

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[KnotaDinghy]

Why would the person have to be VP or Chief of Staff in order to be a whistleblower?

And if it’s “very simple to do”, why hasn’t Trump just done that?

Not “only” those two but those were examples from the Executive Branch.

Why would they need to be a member of the executive branch to be a whistleblower?

And again, this has gone on for days - if Trump didn’t do anything wrong, why not just take the “very simple to do” path of releasing the transcript of the call? Why did the IG he appointed find the whistleblower’s complaint urgent and credible?

I don’t know their motives or reasons for doing, or not doing something. But I’m going to wait for things to come out before I immediately decide something wrong was done.

And I’m thinking the definition of whistleblower is when someone works for a company and they tell on the company. If the CFO of Bayer made a complaint to the DOJ that WalMart was doing something illegal, that’s not a whistleblower case, it’s a criminal complaint (hopefully with evidence).

[Lemons]

I love him? Not hardly. I love my family and some friends, not politicians.

However I do not obsess about politicians every move or every word or statement they make. ALL politicians lie to some extent, even liberals and democrats. Only a fool believes everything they say.

You were using extreme language like everyone "hates" Trump. See how silly it is? And there is reason to watch this man very carefully. He's unstable, unqualified, and doesn't understand how the checks and balances work. For people who are so terrified of the word socialist you don't worry to much about dictatorship or a leader who openly admires two of the worst dictators in the world.

And politicians lying to some extent and a sick person pathologically lying on a daily basis about anything and everything aren't comparable.

You’re exaggerating just a bit. I didn’t say “everyone hates” President Trump, in fact I don’t think I have ever said that. I said George Conway and the OP do. I have only heard Conway criticize, denigrate, condemn and talk about Trump in the most hateful way.

The OP for all her denial talks about him in a similar way. It’s really very similar to how she talked to and about people who didn’t support everything Obama said and did. Maybe she’s learning how it felt. Maybe.

It's just used a lot as an excuse when someone criticizes something Trump has done yet again. I don't believe that people were racist just because they didn't like Obama's policies.

[Francee89]

Not “only” those two but those were examples from the Executive Branch.

Why would they need to be a member of the executive branch to be a whistleblower?

And again, this has gone on for days - if Trump didn’t do anything wrong, why not just take the “very simple to do” path of releasing the transcript of the call? Why did the IG he appointed find the whistleblower’s complaint urgent and credible?

I don’t know their motives or reasons for doing, or not doing something. But I’m going to wait for things to come out before I immediately decide something wrong was done.

And I’m thinking the definition of whistleblower is when someone works for a company and they tell on the company. If the CFO of Bayer made a complaint to the DOJ that WalMart was doing something illegal, that’s not a whistleblower case, it’s a criminal complaint (hopefully with evidence).

It’s a intelligence employee acting as a whistleblower in bringing a complaint to the (Trump-appoited) intelligence IG, not to the DOJ. How is it comparable to employees of a separate company bringing illegal or unethical activity of another company to light?

Trump has already admitted he pressed them to investigate Biden. One would think that if the call was as innocuous as Trump (a noted prolific liar) was claiming, they wouldn’t be pulling out all the stops to stop Congress from being informed about it and about the complaint.

[KnotaDinghy]

Why would they need to be a member of the executive branch to be a whistleblower?

And again, this has gone on for days - if Trump didn’t do anything wrong, why not just take the “very simple to do” path of releasing the transcript of the call? Why did the IG he appointed find the whistleblower’s complaint urgent and credible?

I don’t know their motives or reasons for doing, or not doing something. But I’m going to wait for things to come out before I immediately decide something wrong was done.

And I’m thinking the definition of whistleblower is when someone works for a company and they tell on the company. If the CFO of Bayer made a complaint to the DOJ that WalMart was doing something illegal, that’s not a whistleblower case, it’s a criminal complaint (hopefully with evidence).

It’s a intelligence employee acting as a whistleblower in bringing a complaint to the (Trump-appoited) intelligence IG, not to the DOJ. How is it comparable to employees of a separate company bringing illegal or unethical activity of another company to light?

Trump has already admitted he pressed them to investigate Biden. One would think that if the call was as innocuous as Trump (a noted prolific liar) was claiming, they wouldn’t be pulling out all the stops to stop Congress from being informed about it and about the complaint.

For the last time - I don’t believe this classified as a whistleblower Based upon the definition of a whistleblower.

And I will wait for the details to come out. But I suspect this is much ado about nothing.

[Deleted User 203]

Evidently there's a new allegation involving this "whistle blowing" controversy:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bidens ... nunes-says

A large portion of particularly the Democrat leftists have spent this first presidential term of Donald Trump trying anything and everything they can to get him. To have him done, finished, and for some, walking out of the White House in handcuffs.

Many have harassed, mocked, looked own on, degraded, stalked, and otherwise made horrific suggestions about his family due to their over-the-top dislike.....hatred...of the man.

And in the process, today and a few years since he won the election, this country is starting to see a turnover of many of us getting fed-up up with their antics.

If they're going to go after him, shit or get off the damn pot. I mean LEGITIMATELY go after him and because right now, the Democrat party looks like a network of morons and it's sad because many of them are not that way.

[Francee89]

I don’t know their motives or reasons for doing, or not doing something. But I’m going to wait for things to come out before I immediately decide something wrong was done.

And I’m thinking the definition of whistleblower is when someone works for a company and they tell on the company. If the CFO of Bayer made a complaint to the DOJ that WalMart was doing something illegal, that’s not a whistleblower case, it’s a criminal complaint (hopefully with evidence).

It’s a intelligence employee acting as a whistleblower in bringing a complaint to the (Trump-appoited) intelligence IG, not to the DOJ. How is it comparable to employees of a separate company bringing illegal or unethical activity of another company to light?

Trump has already admitted he pressed them to investigate Biden. One would think that if the call was as innocuous as Trump (a noted prolific liar) was claiming, they wouldn’t be pulling out all the stops to stop Congress from being informed about it and about the complaint.

For the last time - I don’t believe this classified as a whistleblower Based upon the definition of a whistleblower.

And I will wait for the details to come out. But I suspect this is much ado about nothing.

How so? The person is a government employee, filing a complaint about a government official based on insider knowledge.

Again, one would think that if it’s “much ado about nothing”, the Trump administration would be itching to release the transcript of the call and the text of the whistleblower complaint. Trump could
do it right this minute. But I’m sure that even if there’s plenty of ado there, elected Republicans and Trump supporters will engage in their usual mental gymnastics and cowardice to excuse and explain away anything he said or did.

[Francee89]

Evidently there's a new allegation involving this "whistle blowing" controversy:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bidens ... nunes-says

A large portion of particularly the Democrat leftists have spent this first presidential term of Donald Trump trying anything and everything they can to get him. To have him done, finished, and for some, walking out of the White House in handcuffs.

Many have harassed, mocked, looked own on, degraded, stalked, and otherwise made horrific suggestions about his family due to their over-the-top dislike.....hatred...of the man.

And in the process, today and a few years since he won the election, this country is starting to see a turnover of many of us getting fed-up up with their antics.

If they're going to go after him, shit or get off the damn pot. I mean LEGITIMATELY go after him and because right now, the Democrat party looks like a network of morons and it's sad because many of them are not that way.

What new allegation is contained in that article besides Devin Nunes baselessly opining that this will end Biden’s campaign?

In 2018 Republicans lost 40 seats, many from previously Republican districts - particularly many usually reliable, suburban ones - as voters were apparently unimpressed with their legislative agenda and Trump-sycophancy, where almost all elected Republicans are too scared and spineless to condemn Trump’s behavior and statements because he could effectively end their careers with a tweet. I’d say it’s not the Democrats looking like morons here.