Unvaccinated children not allowed by NY state to attend public schools starting today

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Yes, I'm aware it wasn't your recommendation. I'm just surprised gynecologists suggest waiting that long. A lot of times parents are unaware their teens are sexually active. Gynecologists can educate the teens on STD prevention and pregnancy prevention.
29again wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2019 11:06 pm I would imagine that their parents can make the appointments for them.... I took care of my girls, I trust that other parents will take care of their daughters. A college student should be able to make whatever appointments she needs, I mean, hello - COLLEGE students!!

Oh, and you are aware that I did not say all that, it was a quote, right?
Lemons wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2019 10:59 pm Pap smear starting at 21 years old? What about sexually active teens? College students? Shouldn't they be screened for STD's?

29again wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2019 10:38 pm Just gonna put this out there.............



Doesn't sound so good to me.

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Oh, I'm sorry. I thought you were asking ME, and it didn't make sense!
Lemons wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2019 11:14 pm Yes, I'm aware it wasn't your recommendation. I'm just surprised gynecologists suggest waiting that long. A lot of times parents are unaware their teens are sexually active. Gynecologists can educate the teens on STD prevention and pregnancy prevention.
29again wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2019 11:06 pm I would imagine that their parents can make the appointments for them.... I took care of my girls, I trust that other parents will take care of their daughters. A college student should be able to make whatever appointments she needs, I mean, hello - COLLEGE students!!

Oh, and you are aware that I did not say all that, it was a quote, right?
Lemons wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2019 10:59 pm Pap smear starting at 21 years old? What about sexually active teens? College students? Shouldn't they be screened for STD's?


Expand your thinking


It’s possible to disagree with an article and not respond with a personal attack you know.
Try it.
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Oh I don’t have to start shit. Looks like you did a good enough job of that on your own! 😂
WhoAreYou wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2019 10:51 pm And there’s Bunny, jumping in on a post that has nothing to do with her and hurling insults. Yet you don’t start shit.
BionicBunny wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2019 8:24 pm It is very weird but considering who it is it doesn’t surprise me much.
ReadingRainbow wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2019 7:46 pm I’m not speaking for her at all... she’s a strong woman who speaks for herself. As am I... and I am speaking on my own behalf in a conversation that involves me.

What’s weird is that you keep pushing this.
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WhoAreYou wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2019 10:41 pm They interpreted it as such. Again, I’m sure they understand the law in a way you never will, nor will I.
Valentina327 wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2019 8:28 pm
WhoAreYou wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2019 11:48 am SCOTUS has ruled that public health issues overrule education rights.

They INTERPRET the constitution, not change it. Allowing this to happen is changing it.
The language seems pretty clear. I don't know that there's really any need for interpretation. What they've done is OVERRIDE, not interpret, in order to cowtow to politicians.
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I know I responded to this last night, but it isn't there.... ugh. Anyway, I got this vaccine for 2 of my girls. One of them had some psychiatric side effects, which had life-changing effects on our family. It's still difficult to talk about, but I haven't seen her in nearly a decade and probably won't ever see her again because of how this changed her. So, yes, I DO regret that I was stupid enough to get them vaccinated with a new vaccine.
I hope I clarified things, about how and why I feel like I do.
Lemons wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2019 11:11 pm Psychiatric side effects right after the vaccination?

You said you regret your daughters getting the vaccinations. Did they have side effects? I can't follow.

29again wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2019 11:03 pm Oh, Type 16 & 18...
if a person has already been exposed to HPV 16 or 18 prior to injection, then Gardasil increases the risk of precancerous lesions, or worse, by 44.6 percent.
Isn't that lovely?

Psychiatric side effects.

Lemons wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2019 10:54 pm The vaccine treats HPV Types 6, 11, 16 and 18. It treats types 16 and 18 — the 2 types that cause 70% of cervical cancer cases. It also treats types 6 and 11, which cause 90% of genital warts cases.

What is life changing about it?


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29again wrote: Sun Sep 22, 2019 8:59 am I know I responded to this last night, but it isn't there.... ugh. Anyway, I got this vaccine for 2 of my girls. One of them had some psychiatric side effects, which had life-changing effects on our family. It's still difficult to talk about, but I haven't seen her in nearly a decade and probably won't ever see her again because of how this changed her. So, yes, I DO regret that I was stupid enough to get them vaccinated with a new vaccine.
I hope I clarified things, about how and why I feel like I do.
Lemons wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2019 11:11 pm Psychiatric side effects right after the vaccination?

You said you regret your daughters getting the vaccinations. Did they have side effects? I can't follow.

29again wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2019 11:03 pm Oh, Type 16 & 18... Isn't that lovely?

Psychiatric side effects.


That's concerning. I'm sorry. I have two daughters, one is in her early thirties and the other is in her early twenties. Only the younger one got the first course for HPV (it was her decision and then she changed her mind). I'm thankful she didn't have any side effects.
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29again wrote: Sun Sep 22, 2019 8:59 am I know I responded to this last night, but it isn't there.... ugh. Anyway, I got this vaccine for 2 of my girls. One of them had some psychiatric side effects, which had life-changing effects on our family. It's still difficult to talk about, but I haven't seen her in nearly a decade and probably won't ever see her again because of how this changed her. So, yes, I DO regret that I was stupid enough to get them vaccinated with a new vaccine.
I hope I clarified things, about how and why I feel like I do.
Lemons wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2019 11:11 pm Psychiatric side effects right after the vaccination?

You said you regret your daughters getting the vaccinations. Did they have side effects? I can't follow.

29again wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2019 11:03 pm Oh, Type 16 & 18... Isn't that lovely?

Psychiatric side effects.


I'm so, so sorry. There are actually many stories of residual effects from that. I don't know why people insist on discounting actual evidence such as real life experience.
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I know something about mental illness and autism. Both run in my family and are genetically linked.

My sister has two children with autism, one nonverbal. She never bought the now debunked theory that their illnesses were brought on by vaccinations.

Side effects are temporary. Did she develop a mental illness because of the vaccine?

29again wrote: Sun Sep 22, 2019 8:59 am I know I responded to this last night, but it isn't there.... ugh. Anyway, I got this vaccine for 2 of my girls. One of them had some psychiatric side effects, which had life-changing effects on our family. It's still difficult to talk about, but I haven't seen her in nearly a decade and probably won't ever see her again because of how this changed her. So, yes, I DO regret that I was stupid enough to get them vaccinated with a new vaccine.
I hope I clarified things, about how and why I feel like I do.
Lemons wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2019 11:11 pm Psychiatric side effects right after the vaccination?

You said you regret your daughters getting the vaccinations. Did they have side effects? I can't follow.

29again wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2019 11:03 pm Oh, Type 16 & 18... Isn't that lovely?

Psychiatric side effects.


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Because real life experiences are usually interpreted by the one person experiencing it and in no way or form reflect a fact based reality. Correlation doesn’t mean causation and before claiming that vaccines can result in life long psychiatric problem there needs to be more evidence than one person’s experience.
Hundreds of millions of children around the world receive vaccinations. The vast majority with no or minor side effects. Serious side effects are rare and life threatening or lifelong effects are less than extremely rare. Those are real life experiences that repeat often enough to consider it the norm.
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29again wrote: Sun Sep 22, 2019 8:59 am I know I responded to this last night, but it isn't there.... ugh. Anyway, I got this vaccine for 2 of my girls. One of them had some psychiatric side effects, which had life-changing effects on our family. It's still difficult to talk about, but I haven't seen her in nearly a decade and probably won't ever see her again because of how this changed her. So, yes, I DO regret that I was stupid enough to get them vaccinated with a new vaccine.
I hope I clarified things, about how and why I feel like I do.
Lemons wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2019 11:11 pm Psychiatric side effects right after the vaccination?

You said you regret your daughters getting the vaccinations. Did they have side effects? I can't follow.


I'm so, so sorry. There are actually many stories of residual effects from that. I don't know why people insist on discounting actual evidence such as real life experience.
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Momto2boys973 wrote: Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:31 pm Because real life experiences are usually interpreted by the one person experiencing it and in no way or form reflect a fact based reality. Correlation doesn’t mean causation and before claiming that vaccines can result in life long psychiatric problem there needs to be more evidence than one person’s experience.
Hundreds of millions of children around the world receive vaccinations. The vast majority with no or minor side effects. Serious side effects are rare and life threatening or lifelong effects are less than extremely rare. Those are real life experiences that repeat often enough to consider it the norm.
Valentina327 wrote: Sun Sep 22, 2019 11:58 am
29again wrote: Sun Sep 22, 2019 8:59 am I know I responded to this last night, but it isn't there.... ugh. Anyway, I got this vaccine for 2 of my girls. One of them had some psychiatric side effects, which had life-changing effects on our family. It's still difficult to talk about, but I haven't seen her in nearly a decade and probably won't ever see her again because of how this changed her. So, yes, I DO regret that I was stupid enough to get them vaccinated with a new vaccine.
I hope I clarified things, about how and why I feel like I do.

I'm so, so sorry. There are actually many stories of residual effects from that. I don't know why people insist on discounting actual evidence such as real life experience.
What precisely do you think clinical trials consist of? PEOPLE RECOUNTING WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO THEM after taking a drug. Good Lord!

Don't give me that lame line that doctors like to use to make us feel like idiots when something happens "correlation doesn't equal causation". That's the most condescending, dismissive line ever. It pats people on the head and tells them to go away.

Yes I didn't have a 12 cm uterine tumor before the chemo, but 8 months after taking it I do. Nope ... Not the chemo's fault! Absolutely nothing to do with it. But you need to be gutted like a fish now. LMAO

Doctors are in the pocket of big pharma. Who do you think is calling the shots? Wake the hell up.

Guardasil was a $1B industry by itself around 2012. It was predicted by FORBES to reach $4B by now. It's lucrative. It doesn't matter to anyone what collateral damage is left in its wake. There are lawsuits globally related to injury from Guardasil. You can look it up. You can read the stories of healthy teenaged girls who's lives have been destroyed after this. You can see the injury settlements that have been paid out. Japan is doing an experiment because of the complaints and it's been found to cause brain damage in mice.

Look around:
Big pharma drives the medical industry. Feeling blue? The curall is antidepressants. OR tranquilizers because everyone has generalized anxiety disorder. Or you could just chalk that up to normal human emotions and learn how to calm yourself down and cope with life. That's too difficult. We have a pill for that now.

Your kid has a lot of energy? Drug him up cuz now he has a "diagnosis" of ADHD.

Almost no one can live their life now without some type of pharmacological intervention being shoved at them. Are you familiar with how relentless they are with pushing chemo? Just one treatment for the breast cancer cocktail is $6K. And there are much more expensive ones out there.

Absolutely NO ONE should be forced to put a substance into their body that they are not comfortable with putting in there. You want to swallow a handful of pills daily? Bless you. Knock your socks off if you feel like that helps you. You want to get shot up with all available vaccines and flu shots and pneumonia shots? Be my guest if that's what you want.

Why is body autonomy completely disregarded when it comes to vaccines, however body autonomy is shrieked about when defending your "right" to vacuum out your own child because it's inconvenient and you can't figure out how to use birth control properly? The double speak astounds me.

If these vaccines are so wonderful, then you and your children should be perfectly fine if an unvaccinated person gets sick and you come in contact, right? Isn't that the point of being vaccinated? To protect yourself and your children? Then why is it necessary for others to do it if they choose not to? Unvaccinated people should not bother you in the least because you have your own protection.

Follow the money ... What's the financial impact to big pharma if even 30% if the population stopped getting vaccinated?

Currently, vaccines are a $16.6 Billion business, predicted to reach a $26 Billion business by 2024. HOW DO YOU THINK THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN in 4 short years? Little hint ... LEGISLATION

Again, I say wake up and follow the money!

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