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MysticDreamer wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:41 pm Most countries want to know what you can contribute to make their new home better. Heaven forbid, america should have that same standard.
Maybe most countries also want to know what they can do for immigrants while they make their new home in a new country?
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Dylexsmommy wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2019 8:41 pm
Lemons wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2019 8:24 pm
Dylexsmommy wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2019 8:15 pm How racist and xenophobic are you to assume that only white people have educations?
Theres tons and tons of people in other countries trying to get here legally that are highly educated.
First tons of people in democratic countries who are highly educated are not trying to get here.

Second- The vast majority of people from Latino countries are from poor violent countries with crooked politicians, violent gangs, violent police, poverty and not much to offer past high school. They want to come here to get the education and the jobs.

Third - Refugees are people trying to leave a country in war. This would by Syria, Sudan, Yemen, Somalia, Nigeria to name a few. They too want to come to a peaceful country to get an education, safety and a job.

Trump is trying to eliminate these people - People mainly from Latin America, Africa, Middle East. Not so hard to understand.
So why is it ok for every other nation to have standards on who can come and live there but not for us? Why do we have to be the ones that accept all the uneducated immigrants and refugees but every other country can have income guidelines, education, age, and whatever else that Water mentioned in her copy and pastes of what other countries require?

I'm all for immigration. I'm an immigrant myself. First generation with highly educated parents that came here to give us a better life. I'm a naturlized citizen and i am middle eastern.
Why do we have to be the savior of everybody else when we can't even save the people in our own country?

Let someone else pick up the slack. Let Australia stop their "must speak English" rule and allow hispanics in. Let Germany lax their immigration policies and let people have a good life there.

Its not all about the US.
Germany has taken in almost four times the number of refugees as the United States despite having a population of about 1/4 the US. France has taken in more despite having 1/5 the population. Australia takes a significant number for a country with a small population. No one is arguing the United States should take all the world’s refugees, and it definitely isn’t even close to doing that right now.

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MysticDreamer wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:41 pm Most countries want to know what you can contribute to make their new home better. Heaven forbid, america should have that same standard.
Melania Trump’s parents became US citizens relatively recently. What did two elderly, middle class people of retirement age have to contribute to make the United States better? If it’s okay for them to move to the United States and become citizens despite having no discernible employment plans, why does Trump have a different standard for everyone else?
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MysticDreamer wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:41 pm Most countries want to know what you can contribute to make their new home better. Heaven forbid, america should have that same standard.
Poor immigrants have always come in and done the toughest jobs no one else wanted. Right now it’s Latinos working construction if they’re lucky, those chicken places or $5 per hour picking fruit if they’re not so lucky.

If from now on we only take college educated skilled labor who will perform the unskilled labor?
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Francee89 wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2019 10:02 pm
MysticDreamer wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:41 pm Most countries want to know what you can contribute to make their new home better. Heaven forbid, america should have that same standard.
Melania Trump’s parents became US citizens relatively recently. What did two elderly, middle class people of retirement age have to contribute to make the United States better? If it’s okay for them to move to the United States and become citizens despite having no discernible employment plans, why does Trump have a different standard for everyone else?
He’s shameless about his hypocrisy. Two immigrant wives, bringing in temporary immigrant summer help. Just recent one of his golf courses, again, were found to have illegal workers. He is incapable of shame and/or empathy.
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Lemons wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2019 10:32 pm
MysticDreamer wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:41 pm Most countries want to know what you can contribute to make their new home better. Heaven forbid, america should have that same standard.
Poor immigrants have always come in and done the toughest jobs no one else wanted. Right now it’s Latinos working construction if they’re lucky, those chicken places or $5 per hour picking fruit if they’re not so lucky.

If from now on we only take college educated skilled labor who will perform the unskilled labor?
Exactly. Good question.
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MysticDreamer wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:41 pm Most countries want to know what you can contribute to make their new home better. Heaven forbid, america should have that same standard.
It doesn't?
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Francee89 wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2019 10:02 pm
MysticDreamer wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:41 pm Most countries want to know what you can contribute to make their new home better. Heaven forbid, america should have that same standard.
Melania Trump’s parents became US citizens relatively recently. What did two elderly, middle class people of retirement age have to contribute to make the United States better? If it’s okay for them to move to the United States and become citizens despite having no discernible employment plans, why does Trump have a different standard for everyone else?
They have a family member who can support them. https://www.h1base.com/visa/work/Green% ... /ref/1183/
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"If you're going to be here you should learn the language of the country you just arrived at."
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Carpy wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2019 6:54 am "If you're going to be here you should learn the language of the country you just arrived at."
I think that’s taken for granted and most people do.
European countries all teach English to kids starting in first grade.
We loved being in Germany at American bases for two tours- 1971-75 and 1980-82. I took German language lessons in preparation but every time I spoke German in a store , for example, they would reply in English! 😂
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