Michigan can suspend poor people's driver's licenses for unpaid fines: U.S. appeals court

[Della]

If you can't afford the fine don't do the crime. I could afford a fine but I don't want to pay one so I don't park or drive illegally. I do accidentally speed once in a while, if I got pulled over then I face the consequences. Every singe person has the option to no break the law.

Have you ever had a light out (headlight, taillight, running lights, blinkers) that you just simply didn't have the money to repair?

Those are all serious safety issues that put other drivers at risk. Lights are no joke. If you can't afford to get them fixed then you shouldn't drive until you can.

I don't disagree that they are serious safety issues. You live in a large city, don't you?

[ReadingRainbow]

For sure, but the point QOE is making is that the consequences for having these fines are disproportionately burdensome on the poor. If I get a $40 parking ticket, I’m momentarily irritated but it’s not the end of the world. For someone that can’t afford the $40 and who might incur late fees on the $40 they couldn’t afford in the first place trying to save up to pay for it, it’s a huge deal. Obviously people of every socioeconomic status have the option of obeying the regulations in the first place, but the consequences of not doing so are much more severe on the poor.

That may be true, but that is the situation no matter what the object or price is that a person needs to pay for.

Replacing a dishwasher is more impactful, paying for homeowners/renters insurance, paying for groceries...

But the difference is that these fines can be avoided completely if one follows the law.

Your grammar is atrocious, lol. And your logic is odd regarding the dishwasher scenario.

Would you answer the same question I asked Poites [sp?]?

Lol No...

Oddly enough, your replies don’t make me want to continue a conversation... Toodle Loo...

[Della]

If you can't afford the fine don't do the crime. I could afford a fine but I don't want to pay one so I don't park or drive illegally. I do accidentally speed once in a while, if I got pulled over then I face the consequences. Every singe person has the option to no break the law.

Have you ever had a light out (headlight, taillight, running lights, blinkers) that you just simply didn't have the money to repair?

Those get tickets because they are safety measures.

Without headlights everyone driving around you and pedestrians are at risk . Without blinkers accidents happen much more frequently.

Not being able to afford fixing it is not an excuse to make driving more dangerous for everyone else.

How much do these lights cost to replace today? What is the price of a Toyota Tacoma headlight or taillight assembly? Or any other 15 or 20 year old vehicle?

[ReadingRainbow]

Have you ever had a light out (headlight, taillight, running lights, blinkers) that you just simply didn't have the money to repair?

Those get tickets because they are safety measures.

Without headlights everyone driving around you and pedestrians are at risk . Without blinkers accidents happen much more frequently.

Not being able to afford fixing it is not an excuse to make driving more dangerous for everyone else.

How much do these lights cost to replace today? What is the price of a Toyota Tacoma headlight or taillight assembly? Or any other 15 or 20 year old vehicle?

I have no idea...

[Della]

That may be true, but that is the situation no matter what the object or price is that a person needs to pay for.

Replacing a dishwasher is more impactful, paying for homeowners/renters insurance, paying for groceries...

But the difference is that these fines can be avoided completely if one follows the law.

Your grammar is atrocious, lol. And your logic is odd regarding the dishwasher scenario.

Would you answer the same question I asked Poites [sp?]?

Lol No...

Oddly enough, your replies don’t make me want to continue a conversation... Toodle Loo...

Of course not because oddly enough you believe the rest of the country actually needs California to survive.

[Della]

Those get tickets because they are safety measures.

Without headlights everyone driving around you and pedestrians are at risk . Without blinkers accidents happen much more frequently.

Not being able to afford fixing it is not an excuse to make driving more dangerous for everyone else.

How much do these lights cost to replace today? What is the price of a Toyota Tacoma headlight or taillight assembly? Or any other 15 or 20 year old vehicle?

I have no idea...

Why not?

Because you've never worn those moccasins.

[morgan]

Have you ever had a light out (headlight, taillight, running lights, blinkers) that you just simply didn't have the money to repair?

Those are all serious safety issues that put other drivers at risk. Lights are no joke. If you can't afford to get them fixed then you shouldn't drive until you can.

I don't disagree that they are serious safety issues. You live in a large city, don't you?

Not really. I live in the suburbs.

[ReadingRainbow]

Your grammar is atrocious, lol. And your logic is odd regarding the dishwasher scenario.

Would you answer the same question I asked Poites [sp?]?

Lol No...

Oddly enough, your replies don’t make me want to continue a conversation... Toodle Loo...

Of course not because oddly enough you believe the rest of the country actually needs California to survive.

I’m sure the US would survive... but if you think you can take the 5th largest economy out of the US Without some pretty devastating consequences - think again.

[morgan]

That may be true, but that is the situation no matter what the object or price is that a person needs to pay for.

Replacing a dishwasher is more impactful, paying for homeowners/renters insurance, paying for groceries...

But the difference is that these fines can be avoided completely if one follows the law.

Your grammar is atrocious, lol. And your logic is odd regarding the dishwasher scenario.

Would you answer the same question I asked Poites [sp?]?

Lol No...

Oddly enough, your replies don’t make me want to continue a conversation... Toodle Loo...

Yeah when people start to sink the level of picking apart spelling and grammar at that point I’ve pretty much decided the conversation has run its course.

[ReadingRainbow]

How much do these lights cost to replace today? What is the price of a Toyota Tacoma headlight or taillight assembly? Or any other 15 or 20 year old vehicle?

I have no idea...

Why not?

Because you've never worn those moccasins.

Does the price have anything to do with safety requirements?