As it should? An incentive not to be poor? Seriously?Billie.jeens wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2019 10:20 amEverything hurts the poor moreFrancee89 wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 9:42 pmFor sure, but the point QOE is making is that the consequences for having these fines are disproportionately burdensome on the poor. If I get a $40 parking ticket, I’m momentarily irritated but it’s not the end of the world. For someone that can’t afford the $40 and who might incur late fees on the $40 they couldn’t afford in the first place trying to save up to pay for it, it’s a huge deal. Obviously people of every socioeconomic status have the option of obeying the regulations in the first place, but the consequences of not doing so are much more severe on the poor.ReadingRainbow wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 7:58 pm Ok. But absolutely everyone who drives has the option of not speeding. Everyone has the option of using their blinker.
While ok... jackasses might park in the handicapped spot and get a ticket for it, everyone has the option of parking a little farther away if they don't have a disability.
As it should
It's an incentive not to be poor
Michigan can suspend poor people's driver's licenses for unpaid fines: U.S. appeals court
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If you can't afford the fine don't do the crime. I could afford a fine but I don't want to pay one so I don't park or drive illegally. I do accidentally speed once in a while, if I got pulled over then I face the consequences. Every singe person has the option to no break the law.
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Si'PoplarGrove wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2019 10:43 amAs it should? An incentive not to be poor? Seriously?Billie.jeens wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2019 10:20 amEverything hurts the poor moreFrancee89 wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 9:42 pm
For sure, but the point QOE is making is that the consequences for having these fines are disproportionately burdensome on the poor. If I get a $40 parking ticket, I’m momentarily irritated but it’s not the end of the world. For someone that can’t afford the $40 and who might incur late fees on the $40 they couldn’t afford in the first place trying to save up to pay for it, it’s a huge deal. Obviously people of every socioeconomic status have the option of obeying the regulations in the first place, but the consequences of not doing so are much more severe on the poor.
As it should
It's an incentive not to be poor
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Rich people pay for all the infrastructure.CockatooCrazyColt529 wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2019 12:23 pm We should have different roads for the poor whoers and the rich bitches.
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So it won't really matter.
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If the point of things like parking and traffic tickets are to deter illegal actions, having them actually be an incentive to not speed or park illegally for everyone would seem to be the most effective.Billie.jeens wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2019 10:20 amEverything hurts the poor moreFrancee89 wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 9:42 pmFor sure, but the point QOE is making is that the consequences for having these fines are disproportionately burdensome on the poor. If I get a $40 parking ticket, I’m momentarily irritated but it’s not the end of the world. For someone that can’t afford the $40 and who might incur late fees on the $40 they couldn’t afford in the first place trying to save up to pay for it, it’s a huge deal. Obviously people of every socioeconomic status have the option of obeying the regulations in the first place, but the consequences of not doing so are much more severe on the poor.ReadingRainbow wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 7:58 pm Ok. But absolutely everyone who drives has the option of not speeding. Everyone has the option of using their blinker.
While ok... jackasses might park in the handicapped spot and get a ticket for it, everyone has the option of parking a little farther away if they don't have a disability.
As it should
It's an incentive not to be poor
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So you, I, and the court agree that being poor should not make you exempt.Francee89 wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2019 2:30 pmIf the point of things like parking and traffic tickets are to deter illegal actions, having them actually be an incentive to not speed or park illegally for everyone would seem to be the most effective.Billie.jeens wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2019 10:20 amEverything hurts the poor moreFrancee89 wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 9:42 pm
For sure, but the point QOE is making is that the consequences for having these fines are disproportionately burdensome on the poor. If I get a $40 parking ticket, I’m momentarily irritated but it’s not the end of the world. For someone that can’t afford the $40 and who might incur late fees on the $40 they couldn’t afford in the first place trying to save up to pay for it, it’s a huge deal. Obviously people of every socioeconomic status have the option of obeying the regulations in the first place, but the consequences of not doing so are much more severe on the poor.
As it should
It's an incentive not to be poor
Excellent.
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I certainly haven’t argued that they should be exempt, just that I think fines should be within a range, set proportionate to income.Billie.jeens wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2019 2:33 pmSo you, I, and the court agree that being poor should not make you exempt.Francee89 wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2019 2:30 pmIf the point of things like parking and traffic tickets are to deter illegal actions, having them actually be an incentive to not speed or park illegally for everyone would seem to be the most effective.Billie.jeens wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2019 10:20 am
Everything hurts the poor more
As it should
It's an incentive not to be poor
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Should prices be set for everything in that manner?Francee89 wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2019 2:36 pmI certainly haven’t argued that they should be exempt, just that I think fines should be within a range, set proportionate to income.Billie.jeens wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2019 2:33 pmSo you, I, and the court agree that being poor should not make you exempt.
Excellent.
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Okay, I am fine with this. Don't get fines if you can't pay them.