Trump World ramps up campaign to turn tables in Russia case, target Dems who 'colluded'

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Linaluo wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2019 10:09 am
ReadingRainbow wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2019 10:08 am
Linaluo wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2019 10:05 am

oh Where did they find collusion with trump?
Are you attempting to suggest that since the Muller report was inconclusive, the investigation should have never occurred?


Do you understand what an investigation is, or are you under the impression that the FBI only investigates cases that have already been proven?
Did they find collusion?

Collusion is not now, nor has it ever been a definition of a crime... what they did find however was:

Two Trump campaign officials — Paul Manafort and Rick Gates — provided polling information to a Russian oligarch Gates believed was a “spy” for the Kremlin

Trump foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos, with Trump’s approval, tried to arrange meetings between Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin

Russia tried to hack Hillary Clinton’s office five hours after Trump called on Moscow to find her deleted emails

The report makes it clear that:
1) the Russian government tried to help Trump win;
2) the Trump campaign was eager to benefit from hackings targeting Democrats; and
3) Trump’s campaign advisers had a lot of troubling ties to Russia.


Mueller examined 10 episodes where Trump possibly obstructed justice during the investigation. Some of the most egregious examples:

Trump directed White House counsel Don McGahn to fire Mueller, which McGahn refused to do

Trump tried to pressure then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions to un-recuse himself and curtail the investigation

Trump and his lawyers urged key figures (like Manafort) not to “flip” and attacked those who did flip (like Trump’s former lawyer Michael Cohen)


Nowhere did Mueller state that Trump didn’t obstruct justice, either. He wrote, “If we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state.”

Mueller added that Trump’s “efforts to influence the investigation were mostly unsuccessful, but that is largely because the persons who surrounded the President declined to carry out orders or accede to his requests.”

And he noted that “Congress has authority to prohibit a President’s corrupt use of his authority in order to protect the integrity of the administration of justice.”

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Linaluo wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2019 10:09 am
ReadingRainbow wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2019 10:08 am
Linaluo wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2019 10:05 am

oh Where did they find collusion with trump?
Are you attempting to suggest that since the Muller report was inconclusive, the investigation should have never occurred?


Do you understand what an investigation is, or are you under the impression that the FBI only investigates cases that have already been proven?
Did they find collusion?

I've answered your questions. Are you going to answer mine?
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ReadingRainbow wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2019 10:21 am
Linaluo wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2019 10:09 am
ReadingRainbow wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2019 10:08 am

Are you attempting to suggest that since the Muller report was inconclusive, the investigation should have never occurred?


Do you understand what an investigation is, or are you under the impression that the FBI only investigates cases that have already been proven?
Did they find collusion?

I've answered your questions. Are you going to answer mine?
What you are saying is opinion still. Trump will testify if necessary. As for Manafort and the others they were caught with other issues way prior to Trump running for office and they are afraid to be prosecuted. But if they want to pursue then Dems will have to be looked at as well. Why are you opposed for all the truth to come out? I say go for it
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So he’s going for the “I’m rubber, you’re glue” approach. What anyone with the mental capacity of a 5 year would do, of course.
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ReadingRainbow wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:36 am Lol At last!

Acknowledgment that Trump and his followers live in their own world.
You are aware that the world includes the inspector General who has been investigating FISA abuse related to the invetigtions?
“Modern journalism is all about deciding which facts the public shouldn’t know because they might reflect badly on Democrats."
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ReadingRainbow wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2019 10:16 am
Linaluo wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2019 10:09 am
ReadingRainbow wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2019 10:08 am

Are you attempting to suggest that since the Muller report was inconclusive, the investigation should have never occurred?


Do you understand what an investigation is, or are you under the impression that the FBI only investigates cases that have already been proven?
Did they find collusion?

Collusion is not now, nor has it ever been a definition of a crime... what they did find however was:

Two Trump campaign officials — Paul Manafort and Rick Gates — provided polling information to a Russian oligarch Gates believed was a “spy” for the Kremlin

Trump foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos, with Trump’s approval, tried to arrange meetings between Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin

Russia tried to hack Hillary Clinton’s office five hours after Trump called on Moscow to find her deleted emails

The report makes it clear that:
1) the Russian government tried to help Trump win;
2) the Trump campaign was eager to benefit from hackings targeting Democrats; and
3) Trump’s campaign advisers had a lot of troubling ties to Russia.


Mueller examined 10 episodes where Trump possibly obstructed justice during the investigation. Some of the most egregious examples:

Trump directed White House counsel Don McGahn to fire Mueller, which McGahn refused to do

Trump tried to pressure then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions to un-recuse himself and curtail the investigation

Trump and his lawyers urged key figures (like Manafort) not to “flip” and attacked those who did flip (like Trump’s former lawyer Michael Cohen)


Nowhere did Mueller state that Trump didn’t obstruct justice, either. He wrote, “If we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state.”

Mueller added that Trump’s “efforts to influence the investigation were mostly unsuccessful, but that is largely because the persons who surrounded the President declined to carry out orders or accede to his requests.”

And he noted that “Congress has authority to prohibit a President’s corrupt use of his authority in order to protect the integrity of the administration of justice.”

https://www.vox.com/world/2019/4/19/185 ... on-summary
Most of that is actually false or wildly spun - but even if it were true -
It has to be devastating for folk like you who thought Mueller was going to take Trump down. yes?
“Modern journalism is all about deciding which facts the public shouldn’t know because they might reflect badly on Democrats."
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Investigation!
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morgan wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2019 1:58 pmInvestigation!
Go Horowitz!
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ReadingRainbow wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:47 am
Linaluo wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:39 am
ReadingRainbow wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:36 am Lol At last!

Acknowledgment that Trump and his followers live in their own world.
But liberals were not when they thought trump colluded? Ok I am glad you finally see what a waste Mueller was
It's a good thing Trump is sending the Mafia message of "Do your job properly and investigate possible crimes and I'll bury you"...


I'm sure Teflon Don would be proud.

Nothing like a good ole' gangster in the white house.
How could Trump bury anyone if they did nothing wrong
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Trump can't admit that the Russian intelligence and Putin were a major part in the 2016 campaign and helped him win. The report went into great detail on exactly what the Russians did and what they plan again in 2020.

The report states:
“Russian efforts to influence the 2016 U.S. presidential election represent the most recent expression of Moscow’s longstanding desire to undermine the U.S.-led liberal democratic order, but these activities demonstrated a significant escalation in directness, level of activity, and scope of effort compared to previous operations
Instead of taking the Russian government's being in the middle of our campaign, Trump is making a lot of noise and trying to deflect for the sole purpose of winning in 2020. Trump is nothing but a lying piece of trash.
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