I need someone to explain to me how all lives matter is racist.

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I suppose it can go back to not WHAT ("All lives matter" vs "Black Lives Matter) is being said but HOW it is said and even more, WHY?

I *get* what some are attempting when they say, "all lives matter." It's intended to essentially say that everyone....every single person no matter the color of their skin...matters.

But from what I am still learning, many POC have felt (and experienced) dismissed, disregarded, ignored and put last in favor of those who are white. Saying that "black lives matter" allows them the well-afforded right to be at the table where they belong too, and to be recognized and respected equally.

At least again, that is what I am learning and coming to understand.
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Anonymous 1 wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 6:45 pm
Linda_Runs wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 6:42 pm
Anonymous 1 wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 6:40 pm Insensitive towards who?
How did you read, digest, ponder then reply to my long post in three minutes or less? I was expecting my post to be taken seriously.

Insensitive to the black population who is being killed by police as a practice.
As a black woman I disagree that it is insensitive. Saying all lives matter includes those people.

Your post wasn't hard to read or ponder. It also wasn't long.
Being black I am quite surprised you support the all lives matter ideal as a priority. You may be the only one. It comes down to opinion I guess.
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I was thinking that it might happen if Biden wins. But you could be right. All hell might break loose regardless of who wins. Everyone seems so angry these days.

Momto2boys973 wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 6:40 pm That’s the scary thing. I think either way, it will just further the discord.
If Trump loses, he’ll throw the tantrum of the century and his followers will follow suit. And they’ll all definitely continue to cash in on the “us vs them” attitude that got him the presidency to begin with. If he wins, the other side will be pissed as they are now, but then with the added prospect of 4 more years of that same crap.
Anonymous 5 wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 6:35 pm Do you mean if a particular person is voted into office? And if so, which candidate being elected do you fear would lead to an uprise or whatever it was that you were referring to?
Momto2boys973 wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 6:03 pm But it’s not the only one. If police brutality is an issue and minorities are affected more, then blacks aren’t the only ones affected.
Fact is, the movement is now being abused to create more division and more racism. It’s scary because it seems America is deterioro y from within. Granted, history shows us that all empires have eventually imploded, from both internal and external reasons. But it’s worrisome right to see America destroying itself from within with these racial wars going on right now. I may be American, but I’m also seeing it from an outside perspective and I confess, I’m worried. Because extremes from both sides are pulling the strings and the voices from a healthy middle ground perspective are being silenced.
I don’t know what will happen after the elections, but I fear it will be very, very bad.

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Linda_Runs wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:02 pm
Anonymous 1 wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 6:45 pm
Linda_Runs wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 6:42 pm

How did you read, digest, ponder then reply to my long post in three minutes or less? I was expecting my post to be taken seriously.

Insensitive to the black population who is being killed by police as a practice.
As a black woman I disagree that it is insensitive. Saying all lives matter includes those people.

Your post wasn't hard to read or ponder. It also wasn't long.
Being black I am quite surprised you support the all lives matter ideal as a priority. You may be the only one. It comes down to opinion I guess.
I'm not the only one. Many of my friends and family support it also.
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Anonymous 1 wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:03 pm
Linda_Runs wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:02 pm
Anonymous 1 wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 6:45 pm

As a black woman I disagree that it is insensitive. Saying all lives matter includes those people.

Your post wasn't hard to read or ponder. It also wasn't long.
Being black I am quite surprised you support the all lives matter ideal as a priority. You may be the only one. It comes down to opinion I guess.
I'm not the only one. Many of my friends and family support it also.
It is sure nice to get a full spectrum of thoughts then. Thank you for sharing by the way!
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Momto2boys973 wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 5:54 pm It doesn’t need a slogan. If it’s a real and documented issue, then it needs addressing without creating more hatred and division, not by coming up with clever catchphrases.
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Momto2boys973 wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 5:44 pm You really can’t see how specifying a race would be considered exclusionary and racist in the current social environment as opposed to having a fundraiser for a type of cancer?

What in your opinion would be a more appropriate slogan to address the disproportionate arrest, imprisoning, and killing of Blacks (particularly Black men) by our police?
I can't think of a single movement or protest without specific messaging. Can you?
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Both sides are pulling like a tug-of-war. And the ones getting in the mud is the healthy middle ground that could do something the better the situation.
Both sides are contributing to an all out racial war and that will just destroy America from the inside. I’m worried.
Anonymous 5 wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:03 pm I was thinking that it might happen if Biden wins. But you could be right. All hell might break loose regardless of who wins. Everyone seems so angry these days.

Momto2boys973 wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 6:40 pm That’s the scary thing. I think either way, it will just further the discord.
If Trump loses, he’ll throw the tantrum of the century and his followers will follow suit. And they’ll all definitely continue to cash in on the “us vs them” attitude that got him the presidency to begin with. If he wins, the other side will be pissed as they are now, but then with the added prospect of 4 more years of that same crap.
Anonymous 5 wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 6:35 pm Do you mean if a particular person is voted into office? And if so, which candidate being elected do you fear would lead to an uprise or whatever it was that you were referring to?

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Specific message and catchphrase are 2 different things. If the message is equality, then convey a message of equality. Don’t exclude because the people outside your specifications may feel like now you are demeaning them.
As much as I really don’t have anything against the “Black Lives Matter” slogan, I can understand how it has created more division instead of more unity. Come on, terms like “Karen” and “Ken” are OK to use to demean white oriole now? It seems like it’s OK now to use demeaning terms to talk about white people. And this is happening because each group is now excluding others. There’s no “all of us” anymore in America. It’s “us vs them”.
Anonymous 3 wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:50 pm
Momto2boys973 wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 5:54 pm It doesn’t need a slogan. If it’s a real and documented issue, then it needs addressing without creating more hatred and division, not by coming up with clever catchphrases.
Anonymous 3 wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 5:50 pm

What in your opinion would be a more appropriate slogan to address the disproportionate arrest, imprisoning, and killing of Blacks (particularly Black men) by our police?
I can't think of a single movement or protest without specific messaging. Can you?
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Hot4Tchr-Bieg wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 4:50 pm It's argumentative. Its a rebuttal or a retort to "black lives matter" It's dismissive of the issue of black folks being killed unjustly while their killers suffer too little consequence.

That said, its completely stupid to assume somebody who says "all lives matter" is racist or holds racist points of view.
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Anonymous 2 wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 4:52 pm
Hot4Tchr-Bieg wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 4:50 pm It's argumentative. Its a rebuttal or a retort to "black lives matter" It's dismissive of the issue of black folks being killed unjustly while their killers suffer too little consequence.

That said, its completely stupid to assume somebody who says "all lives matter" is racist or holds racist points of view.
the same shit happens to white people. it just doesn't hit the media
When was the last time a white guy was jogging down the street in his own neighborhood and chased by yahoos in trucks and shot in broad daylight? I'll wait. . . .
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