I need someone to explain to me how all lives matter is racist.

[Anonymous 2]

But it doesn't happen because the jogger is white. Arbery was killed because he was black.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/bre ... story.html


it seems a lot of people have fogotten about this. this happened because he was white.

I said 3 white dudes, chasing another white dude jogging and then killing him because he's white.

this os 4 black people torturing and killing a white man because he is white and a lot worse. soo..

[Momto2boys973]

Oh, I absolutely agree that the recent racial discords are a response. But here’s the thing: that will bring a response too. If taken too far and whites start feeling like the persecuted ones (as it’s starting to happen) then it will cause a backlash and the circle of hatred will just keep going. Because no one is talking about unity and cooperation, each side is talking about not being the one on the bottom.

I agree with you that it is not clear cut and racism and hatred of the other exists on both sides.
However, the protests by BLM movement exist because those in power are white, because those who make the law and legislate are white, because those who enforce the law ( unequally and sometimes unlawfully) are white, those who sit on the bench in the highest courts are predominantly white. So the BLM movement rages against those who use their power to justify the murders of blacks by not bringing perpetrators (usually those who've been sworn to protect their communities) to justice, and they are white.

When you combine hatred and racism with power and use that vantage point against those who are powerless, the powerless will hate and be racists back. And when the powerless are done with just trying to survive and feel they have nothing to lose, they will protests and rage with all their might.

There are good people in power and bad. There are good people and bad in the black communities and the BLM movement. But abuse of power over another's survival, existence, and subsistence lies with whites, and usually against blacks and minorities, the disenfranchised, etc.

Do you really think that there are no incidents of racial violence that are black-on-white? Just out of hatred and racism?
How about this?

https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/12/us/jers ... index.html

Seriously, you can’t just start vilifying and sanctifying. There’s wrong done on BOTH sides, there’s prejudice and hatred on BOTH sides. Blinding yourself to just one side doesn’t contribute in a positive way. If you truly want to make things better you have to see the virtues and faults on both sides.

But it doesn't happen because the jogger is white. Arbery was killed because he was black.

[Momto2boys973]

So? Do you really think that only happens to black guys? These were 2 black guys who went up and attacked white Jews because they feel blacks are the “true” Hebrews. Do you really think that nowadays Latinos don’t get attacked for being Latinos? Muslims don’t get attacked for being Muslims? Jews don’t gat attacked for being Jews?
It happens and sadly, it will continue to happen. Hatred exists and it will continue to exist.
But it’s not exclusive BY and AGAINST one particular group of people

Nope not what I said at all. I said three white dudes chasing down another white dude jogging and kill him because he was white.

Do you really think that there are no incidents of racial violence that are black-on-white? Just out of hatred and racism?
How about this?

https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/12/us/jers ... index.html

Seriously, you can’t just start vilifying and sanctifying. There’s wrong done on BOTH sides, there’s prejudice and hatred on BOTH sides. Blinding yourself to just one side doesn’t contribute in a positive way. If you truly want to make things better you have to see the virtues and faults on both sides.

But it doesn't happen because the jogger is white. Arbery was killed because he was black.

[Mrs.ChuckBass]

Idk how it is in Canada but in talking to black people (long before the riots) there's a perception here that police racially profile people and presume guilt before innocence. Someone a week or so ago posted a video describing the history behind why we have the problems we have now. It was very interesting. I tend to worry because it seems to me the police no longer know their neighborhoods. Who walks a beat anymore? What policeman talks to people for the sake of it? And if they see the things you're saying they may very well assume the worse of people in certain areas or circumstances. It's only human nature. Now it's foolish to send volunteers into violent areas. But not foolish to try to figure out what's going wrong between POC and the police so it can be fixed. And they're saying BLM because rightly or wrongly POC feel their lives don't matter.

in Saskatoon it is indigenous communities who are protesting, but seriously though....I hate to say it but what group is predominantly committing violent crime in Saskatoon?
oh we can't say, that would be racist.
how can we even address this issue if we keep defending criminals and making it about the police and not taking the citizens who are criminals into account for their behaviour?
these people who are getting hurt or killed in arrests are criminals and put themselves in that position, no matter what ethnicity you are, and the fact of the matter is, certain areas of the city ARE very violent and have high violent crime rates.....we have kids under 16 getting charged with shooting people, murder, setting off cans of mace in the malls, groups attacking strangers for no reason, we have home invasions, people being held against their will, we have so much crap happening in that area, YES the cops put a heavier focus on that area!
of F***ing COURSE they do!!!
what are we supposed to do? just stop policing the area?
they are calling to defund the police and want funding sent to organizations like this harm reduction group I mentioned, which is a grassroots operation that mostly picks up dirty needles.
how about sending more funding to the mental health response team which is underfunded and understaffed? oh wait nope thats not gonna work because they are COPS.
f**k the police right? so that won't work......this is just getting ridiculous

I wouldn't know anything about Saksatoon. I do know American prison population has exploded and we should find out why since obviously we're sick. From what I understand defunding the police means putting money into social programs meant to stop crime in the first place. So if they'll fund a truly professional group to go into your violent areas to respond to mental health crisis and get those folks real help that's good. If it's some grassroots group no that shouldn't be done. And yes if it's a violent neighborhood the police got to do what they got to do. I think what needs to be asked is why is crime higher among those people in those neighborhoods? We should try to get at the root cause. So the police are necessary but so are as you say mental health programs and professionals. Canada needs to allocate money carefully.

good question; intergenerational substance abuse problems, large families which are heavily embedded in local gangs as well as other organized crime groups, intergenerational poverty and abuse, and rampant RAMPANT meth addiction, we do have a lot of opiod users as well, but the ones who are awake for a week on meth and who are in drug induced psychosis, those are the really dangerous ones.
the area is rife with slumlord type housing, gang houses, condemned houses, and low income apartments, no one in their right mind WANTS to live in that area.
thats where people end up though due to socioeconomic circumstances, and the fact that in that area, they do whatever the f**k they want and feel very emboldened to do so.

[cgd5112]

Yes, very true. And the ones who hold the power of change are the ones who feel they have the most to lose. When you have the lion’s share, you’re not likely to share. Anything that threatens that power will always be perceived as going too far.

The onus of unity and cooperation lies with those in power. It’s their cooperation to engage in and implement change that can bring about unity.

Oh, I absolutely agree that the recent racial discords are a response. But here’s the thing: that will bring a response too. If taken too far and whites start feeling like the persecuted ones (as it’s starting to happen) then it will cause a backlash and the circle of hatred will just keep going. Because no one is talking about unity and cooperation, each side is talking about not being the one on the bottom.

I agree with you that it is not clear cut and racism and hatred of the other exists on both sides.
However, the protests by BLM movement exist because those in power are white, because those who make the law and legislate are white, because those who enforce the law ( unequally and sometimes unlawfully) are white, those who sit on the bench in the highest courts are predominantly white. So the BLM movement rages against those who use their power to justify the murders of blacks by not bringing perpetrators (usually those who've been sworn to protect their communities) to justice, and they are white.

When you combine hatred and racism with power and use that vantage point against those who are powerless, the powerless will hate and be racists back. And when the powerless are done with just trying to survive and feel they have nothing to lose, they will protests and rage with all their might.

There are good people in power and bad. There are good people and bad in the black communities and the BLM movement. But abuse of power over another's survival, existence, and subsistence lies with whites, and usually against blacks and minorities, the disenfranchised, etc.

Do you really think that there are no incidents of racial violence that are black-on-white? Just out of hatred and racism?
How about this?

https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/12/us/jers ... index.html

Seriously, you can’t just start vilifying and sanctifying. There’s wrong done on BOTH sides, there’s prejudice and hatred on BOTH sides. Blinding yourself to just one side doesn’t contribute in a positive way. If you truly want to make things better you have to see the virtues and faults on both sides.