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Two MS-13 gang members convicted of killing a teenage girl in a satanic ritual in 2017 have each been sentenced
Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 10:58 am
by Slimshandy
https://abc13.com/amp/ms13-members-conv ... /10698789/
Hernandez-Rivera's partner, Miguel Alvarez-Flores, 26, also known as "Diabolico," pleaded guilty to murder in February and was sentenced to 40 years in prison.
According to a release from the Harris County District Attorney's Office, prosecutors expected to show in court that Cornejo was dating a gang member and was chosen as a sacrifice and shot to death, likely because she disrespected their shrine to the Santa Muerte, the Saint of Death.
Re: Two MS-13 gang members convicted of killing a teenage girl in a satanic ritual in 2017 have each been sentenced
Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 3:59 pm
by Baconqueen13
Satanism doesn't have "Saints" so it was a "ritual" based on Catholic beliefs, not actually Satanism.
Re: Two MS-13 gang members convicted of killing a teenage girl in a satanic ritual in 2017 have each been sentenced
Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 4:06 pm
by Slimshandy
Baconqueen13 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 3:59 pm
Satanism doesn't have "Saints" so it was a "ritual" based on Catholic beliefs, not actually Satanism.
Maybe you’re only familiar with the post-1960’s Americanized version of Satanism?
Re: Two MS-13 gang members convicted of killing a teenage girl in a satanic ritual in 2017 have each been sentenced
Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 4:13 pm
by Baconqueen13
Slimshandy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 4:06 pm
Baconqueen13 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 3:59 pm
Satanism doesn't have "Saints" so it was a "ritual" based on Catholic beliefs, not actually Satanism.
Maybe you’re only familiar with the post-1960’s Americanized version of Satanism?
You mean the versions spouted by various Christians to demonize and persecute their ideological opponents. Yes, the Catholics accused Protestants of Satanism and Protestants accused Puritans, and round and round it went but ALL "claims" of Satanism were rooted in the Christian mythology of those pointing the fingers at others.
Re: Two MS-13 gang members convicted of killing a teenage girl in a satanic ritual in 2017 have each been sentenced
Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 4:28 pm
by Slimshandy
Baconqueen13 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 4:13 pm
Slimshandy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 4:06 pm
Baconqueen13 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 3:59 pm
Satanism doesn't have "Saints" so it was a "ritual" based on Catholic beliefs, not actually Satanism.
Maybe you’re only familiar with the post-1960’s Americanized version of Satanism?
You mean the versions spouted by various Christians to demonize and persecute their ideological opponents. Yes, the Catholics accused Protestants of Satanism and Protestants accused Puritans, and round and round it went but ALL "claims" of Satanism were rooted in the Christian mythology of those pointing the fingers at others.
No…
Meaning when different countries have different religions than just what Britain, France and America taught us about…
Like… legitimate satan worshipping ceremonies.
https://english.elpais.com/internationa ... utType=amp
Re: Two MS-13 gang members convicted of killing a teenage girl in a satanic ritual in 2017 have each been sentenced
Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 5:01 pm
by WellPreserved
Re: Two MS-13 gang members convicted of killing a teenage girl in a satanic ritual in 2017 have each been sentenced
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 9:59 am
by Baconqueen13
Slimshandy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 4:28 pm
Baconqueen13 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 4:13 pm
Slimshandy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 4:06 pm
Maybe you’re only familiar with the post-1960’s Americanized version of Satanism?
You mean the versions spouted by various Christians to demonize and persecute their ideological opponents. Yes, the Catholics accused Protestants of Satanism and Protestants accused Puritans, and round and round it went but ALL "claims" of Satanism were rooted in the Christian mythology of those pointing the fingers at others.
No…
Meaning when different countries have different religions than just what Britain, France and America taught us about…
Like… legitimate satan worshipping ceremonies.
https://english.elpais.com/internationa ... utType=amp
You realize that the article you posted frames the entire thing from the Christian perspective based on Christian ideologies of Satan. Satan (specifically pre 1960's) is a Christian based construct again it (satanism) was used to demonize foes to Christian ideologies in an effort to spread Christian propaganda. A "black mass' is Catholic Satanism. Which denotes the person having beliefs based in Catholicism.
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Re: Two MS-13 gang members convicted of killing a teenage girl in a satanic ritual in 2017 have each been sentenced
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 10:02 am
by Slimshandy
Baconqueen13 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 9:59 am
Slimshandy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 4:28 pm
Baconqueen13 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 4:13 pm
You mean the versions spouted by various Christians to demonize and persecute their ideological opponents. Yes, the Catholics accused Protestants of Satanism and Protestants accused Puritans, and round and round it went but ALL "claims" of Satanism were rooted in the Christian mythology of those pointing the fingers at others.
No…
Meaning when different countries have different religions than just what Britain, France and America taught us about…
Like… legitimate satan worshipping ceremonies.
https://english.elpais.com/internationa ... utType=amp
You realize that the article you posted frames the entire thing from the Christian perspective based on Christian ideologies of Satan. Satan (specifically pre 1960's) is a Christian based construct again it (satanism) was used to demonize foes to Christian ideologies in an effort to spread Christian propaganda.
The is no satan outside of the Christian theology…
That doesn’t mean satanists (who worship satan) don’t exist.
Your version of what you think Satanism is based itself around the presumption that satan doesn’t exist, and what I am saying is that *this* is a different religion… one that DOES believe satan exists, and worships him…
Re: Two MS-13 gang members convicted of killing a teenage girl in a satanic ritual in 2017 have each been sentenced
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 10:12 am
by Baconqueen13
Slimshandy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 10:02 am
Baconqueen13 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 9:59 am
You realize that the article you posted frames the entire thing from the Christian perspective based on Christian ideologies of Satan. Satan (specifically pre 1960's) is a Christian based construct again it (satanism) was used to demonize foes to Christian ideologies in an effort to spread Christian propaganda.
The is no satan outside of the Christian theology…
That doesn’t mean satanists (who worship satan) don’t exist.
Your version of what you think Satanism is based itself around the presumption that satan doesn’t exist, and what I am saying is that *this* is a different religion… one that DOES believe satan exists, and worships him…
Don't presume to tell me what i think. I'm saying God and Satan don't exist. Pre 1960s "Satanism" was a claim used by the church to vilify their opponents often politically or ideologically. Now what you are talking about is theistic Satanism which once again is rooted in Christian mythology, specifically Catholic mythology. Your article even states the guy running the so called "black mass" was raised Catholic. Aka he's an "alternative" Catholic not a Satanist.
Re: Two MS-13 gang members convicted of killing a teenage girl in a satanic ritual in 2017 have each been sentenced
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 10:44 am
by Slimshandy
Baconqueen13 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 10:12 am
Slimshandy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 10:02 am
Baconqueen13 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 9:59 am
You realize that the article you posted frames the entire thing from the Christian perspective based on Christian ideologies of Satan. Satan (specifically pre 1960's) is a Christian based construct again it (satanism) was used to demonize foes to Christian ideologies in an effort to spread Christian propaganda.
The is no satan outside of the Christian theology…
That doesn’t mean satanists (who worship satan) don’t exist.
Your version of what you think Satanism is based itself around the presumption that satan doesn’t exist, and what I am saying is that *this* is a different religion… one that DOES believe satan exists, and worships him…
Dont presume to tell me what i think. I'm sayinc God and Satan don't exist. Pre 1960s "satanism" was a claim used by the church to vilify their opponents often politically or ideologically. Now what you are talking about is theistic Satanism which once again is rooted in Christian mythology, specifically Catholic mythology. Your article even states the guy running the so called "black mass" was raised Catholic. Aka he's an "alternative" Catholic not a Satanist.
Lol so now God and satan don’t exist…
Ok, well there are some religions that believe that they do…and you don’t get to decide what religion *they* are.
There are self described satanists that pray to satan, whether you like that , believe that, or care…