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Re: What is Israel’s role in the end times?

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 10:49 am
by Slimshandy
Della wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2024 10:18 am
Slimshandy wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2024 10:17 am
Della wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2024 10:08 am

Why is that important?
How am I going to say if I agree with your interpretation if I don’t know what it is?
This is from GotQuestions. It's their interpretation.
Their interpretation is that this is not the end times… that I would agree with.


The bits of scripture are not an interpretation, it’s a reference.

Re: What is Israel’s role in the end times?

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 11:52 am
by Della
Slimshandy wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2024 10:49 am
Della wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2024 10:18 am
Slimshandy wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2024 10:17 am

How am I going to say if I agree with your interpretation if I don’t know what it is?
This is from GotQuestions. It's their interpretation.
Their interpretation is that this is not the end times… that I would agree with.


The bits of scripture are not an interpretation, it’s a reference.
They take various one liners (chapter and verse/s) and create an outcome from it. It's their interpretation.

Re: What is Israel’s role in the end times?

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 12:07 pm
by Slimshandy
Della wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2024 11:52 am
Slimshandy wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2024 10:49 am
Della wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2024 10:18 am

This is from GotQuestions. It's their interpretation.
Their interpretation is that this is not the end times… that I would agree with.


The bits of scripture are not an interpretation, it’s a reference.
They take various one liners (chapter and verse/s) and create an outcome from it. It's their interpretation.
The various one liners aren’t adding up to a singular narrative.

For starters, it doesn’t say anywhere in the Bible that “Jews will accept Jesus as savior”. Even in the scriptures they provide to suggest it…


So no, I don’t think adding up one liners can constitute a proper interpretation.

Re: What is Israel’s role in the end times?

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 12:53 pm
by mommy_jules
What Israel’s role in the “end of times” in Christianity depends on your eschatological views. Got Questions ministry is a conservative evangelical nondenominational (I read that as reformed Baptist) parachurch ministry. They have a premillennial dispensational view on eschatology, so that needs to be considered when reading their views on “the end times”.

https://www.gotquestions.org/Eschatology.html

More charismatic/pentecostal Christians, such as Sean Feucht, who believe the world is in “the end times” now or are always predicting “the end times.”

Re: What is Israel’s role in the end times?

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 2:03 pm
by mommy_jules
mommy_jules wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2024 12:53 pm What Israel’s role in the “end of times” in Christianity depends on your eschatological views. Got Questions ministry is a conservative evangelical nondenominational (I read that as reformed Baptist) parachurch ministry. They have a premillennial dispensational view on eschatology, so that needs to be considered when reading their views on “the end times”.

https://www.gotquestions.org/Eschatology.html

More charismatic/pentecostal Christians, such as Sean Feucht, who believe the world is in “the end times” now or are always predicting “the end times.”


Re: What is Israel’s role in the end times?

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 4:12 pm
by MonarchMom
So very tired of people believing they are preparing for the "end times" and acting in irrational and irresponsible ways as a result.

None of us know if or when there will be an "end time" and many citizens of the planet do not subscribe to doomsday beliefs. Yet we are all impacted by the failure of many to care about the future of our ecosystem, the cruelty of wealth inequality and the rejection of scientific rational thinking.

Re: What is Israel’s role in the end times?

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 9:46 pm
by Aletheia
Della wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2024 8:58 pm "However, the Bible does say there will be terrible conflict in Israel during the end times"
I'm surprised they didn't reference Obadiah and Micah.

Re: What is Israel’s role in the end times?

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 12:33 am
by Momto2boys973
https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/gog-and-magog/

The final conflict is the war of Gog and Magog. Some do believe we’re seeing the beginning of it right now.
Aletheia wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2024 9:46 pm
Della wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2024 8:58 pm "However, the Bible does say there will be terrible conflict in Israel during the end times"
I'm surprised they didn't reference Obadiah and Micah.