Florida’s DeSantis signs one of the country’s most restrictive social media bans for minors

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jas wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 2:08 pm
mcginnisc wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 1:55 pm
AZOldGal66 wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 12:32 pm

Not every parent is as diligent as you've been with your kid's on Internet access and usage.

Sometimes that "village" needs to step in and put these kinds of restrictions in place as so many parents do not pay attention to what their kid's are viewing and participating in online.
I completely disagree that the government should have any right to come in and tell parents their kids can't use social media. It crosses a line. I'm so over the government deciding that teachers can't let kids mention their two same S*x parents, books being removed because some yahoo gets pissy about it, and so on..it's not for the FL government to decide what parents that live there can allow their children to do and at what ages.
You're free to move to somewhere that aligns more to what you believe. I like this bill and support it. A LOT of parents are idiots and yes, they do need to be told how to raise their kids. So teachers can't mention this or that... so? If YOU think YOUR child is ready - teach them. Want them to read a book? Buy it. The standards are NOT the same across the board. Just because a kid is in a certain grade doesn't make them ready to learn about certain things. Parents who give a shit are the ones speaking out. They don't ban a book because 1 is being pissy.
Do you live in Florida?
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jas wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 2:08 pm
mcginnisc wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 1:55 pm
AZOldGal66 wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 12:32 pm

Not every parent is as diligent as you've been with your kid's on Internet access and usage.

Sometimes that "village" needs to step in and put these kinds of restrictions in place as so many parents do not pay attention to what their kid's are viewing and participating in online.
I completely disagree that the government should have any right to come in and tell parents their kids can't use social media. It crosses a line. I'm so over the government deciding that teachers can't let kids mention their two same S*x parents, books being removed because some yahoo gets pissy about it, and so on..it's not for the FL government to decide what parents that live there can allow their children to do and at what ages.
You're free to move to somewhere that aligns more to what you believe. I like this bill and support it. A LOT of parents are idiots and yes, they do need to be told how to raise their kids. So teachers can't mention this or that... so? If YOU think YOUR child is ready - teach them. Want them to read a book? Buy it. The standards are NOT the same across the board. Just because a kid is in a certain grade doesn't make them ready to learn about certain things. Parents who give a shit are the ones speaking out. They don't ban a book because 1 is being pissy.
Oh kiss off.
Again, the Republicans used to be for SMALLER government. Now, they think it is acceptable to tell parents and everyone else what they can do. This bill is a slippery slope as it does defy the Constitution in terms of free speech. It is unconstitutional. Period. By the way, just because I disagree with things the government does, does NOT mean I need to move. Kiss my rosy ass. You are free to support this bill, just like I am allowed to think it is BS. I do not think the government has any right to remove books because conservatives dislike them like the ones that mention having two parents of the same S*x. Whether you like the subject or not, there are tons of kids out there that have two moms or two dads and they should be represented just like my kids that have a mom and dad. I was perfectly respectful in my response to Della..you? Not so much because you came at me like an ass. Grow up and accept that just because someone does not like certain things happening does not mean they need to move.
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mcginnisc wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 2:44 pm
jas wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 2:08 pm
mcginnisc wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 1:55 pm

I completely disagree that the government should have any right to come in and tell parents their kids can't use social media. It crosses a line. I'm so over the government deciding that teachers can't let kids mention their two same S*x parents, books being removed because some yahoo gets pissy about it, and so on..it's not for the FL government to decide what parents that live there can allow their children to do and at what ages.
You're free to move to somewhere that aligns more to what you believe. I like this bill and support it. A LOT of parents are idiots and yes, they do need to be told how to raise their kids. So teachers can't mention this or that... so? If YOU think YOUR child is ready - teach them. Want them to read a book? Buy it. The standards are NOT the same across the board. Just because a kid is in a certain grade doesn't make them ready to learn about certain things. Parents who give a shit are the ones speaking out. They don't ban a book because 1 is being pissy.
Oh kiss off.
Again, the Republicans used to be for SMALLER government. Now, they think it is acceptable to tell parents and everyone else what they can do. This bill is a slippery slope as it does defy the Constitution in terms of free speech. It is unconstitutional. Period. By the way, just because I disagree with things the government does, does NOT mean I need to move. Kiss my rosy ass. You are free to support this bill, just like I am allowed to think it is BS. I do not think the government has any right to remove books because conservatives dislike them like the ones that mention having two parents of the same S*x. Whether you like the subject or not, there are tons of kids out there that have two moms or two dads and they should be represented just like my kids that have a mom and dad. I was perfectly respectful in my response to Della..you? Not so much because you came at me like an ass. Grow up and accept that just because someone does not like certain things happening does not mean they need to move.
I think you meant AZ :)

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I haven't read the article, but I can tell you, I believe that the focus should be on the apps and the companies who create and develop them. There are more than enough resources and technology out there which can help limit access to social media for young users, and which can control what kind of content they are exposed to. They just don't want to spend the money. Good, ethical business is not cheap.

Current standard for age verification is to enter your birthday. Any dumb ass kid can simply input an older birthday. And while I agree that it is still a parent's responsibility, the odds are stacked against us. I think it is time we start asking for ethics in business.

I despise DeSantis and I don't believe he does anything altruistically but this is definitely an interesting concept addressing a serious issue.
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mcginnisc wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 1:55 pm
AZOldGal66 wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 12:32 pm
mcginnisc wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 11:23 am

Just curious..why do you think it is acceptable for them to say parents cannot decide what is acceptable in their family regardless of age when it comes to social media? I mean..this basically goes against the Constitution and free speech. I don't need the government telling me what I can allow my teens to have on their phones or use. That is *my* decision as a parent. I allowed my girls IG at 13 due to their theater class as they posted the choreography in a private group for them to watch it over and over to learn it. Now, at almost 16 and at 18..they don't have the restrictions they once had. The only things we don't allow is TikTok and Snapchat for our almost 16 year old because of security issues ( Dh works in CyberSecurity and won't allow them).
Not every parent is as diligent as you've been with your kid's on Internet access and usage.

Sometimes that "village" needs to step in and put these kinds of restrictions in place as so many parents do not pay attention to what their kid's are viewing and participating in online.
I completely disagree that the government should have any right to come in and tell parents their kids can't use social media. It crosses a line. I'm so over the government deciding that teachers can't let kids mention their two same S*x parents, books being removed because some yahoo gets pissy about it, and so on..it's not for the FL government to decide what parents that live there can allow their children to do and at what ages.
I understand yet see this bill differently, as I've explained.
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Della wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 12:34 pm
AZOldGal66 wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 12:32 pm
mcginnisc wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 11:23 am

Just curious..why do you think it is acceptable for them to say parents cannot decide what is acceptable in their family regardless of age when it comes to social media? I mean..this basically goes against the Constitution and free speech. I don't need the government telling me what I can allow my teens to have on their phones or use. That is *my* decision as a parent. I allowed my girls IG at 13 due to their theater class as they posted the choreography in a private group for them to watch it over and over to learn it. Now, at almost 16 and at 18..they don't have the restrictions they once had. The only things we don't allow is TikTok and Snapchat for our almost 16 year old because of security issues ( Dh works in CyberSecurity and won't allow them).
Not every parent is as diligent as you've been with your kid's on Internet access and usage.

Sometimes that "village" needs to step in and put these kinds of restrictions in place as so many parents do not pay attention to what their kid's are viewing and participating in online.
That's an interesting take on parental vs. government rights.
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It seems like a lot of states are also going down ID verification path for other sites and apps. I doubt this will be limited to Florida.
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Lexy wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 4:54 pm It seems like a lot of states are also going down ID verification path for other sites and apps. I doubt this will be limited to Florida.
Lol In Arkansas even adults aren’t allowed to watch porn without age verifications.

Which is fine too… all the adults had to show I’d to buy it as a video tape, cd or magazine. Why wouldn’t we have the same kind of protection online…
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Lexy wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 4:54 pm It seems like a lot of states are also going down ID verification path for other sites and apps. I doubt this will be limited to Florida.
"As NetChoice explained in our testimony, public statements and veto letter to Gov. DeSantis, HB 3 in effect will impose an “I.D. for the Internet” on any Floridian who wants to use an online service—no matter their age. To be able to determine (1) whether a user in Florida is under the age of 14 and (2) whether the adult doing the verifying a minor over the age of 14 is truly that child’s parent or guardian, online services will need to conduct identity verification."

https://netchoice.org/gov-desantis-indi ... s-privacy/


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