Those supporting Palestine talk about land and equality and guess what? Hamas and Palestinians don’t want land or equality. The only thing they want is to erase Israel from the map. They want it gone with as much Jews as possible. So my question which apparently all those critics of Israel just choose to ignore is how do make peace with someone whose only wish is for you to be destroyed? What do you even have to offer to negotiate with someone like that? That’s why they constantly reject these offers of land from Israel, because then they’ll have no excuse to keep fighting and the land isn’t what they really want.
Valentina327 wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 10:32 amI was watching an interesting video last week that revealed that Palestine was offered portions of land 5 different times and refused each time. The last time Israel offered to give up 80% of the land to them I think. Stubbornly refused each time. I guess in their minds they want all it nothing? So it appears the effort has been more than made by Israel.Momto2boys973 wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 11:24 am Exactly!!! And that’s where your assessment of the situation is totally mistaken! Israel has never, ever, EVER had a problem with Palestinians having their own country. They took the little piece of land GIVEN to them and started building a country. If the Palestinians had done the same, there wouldn’t be a problem because Israel never objected to Palestine existing. A different tune from the Palestinians who always rejected the notion of a Jewish state.
Netanyahu himself said it: “If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more violence. If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no more Israel'”. Golda Meir said: “Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate ours.”
So it’s not Israel the one trying to eliminate the other side. I mean, the Israeli Army is probably second best in the world after the U.S. If Israel believed that Palestine shouldn’t exist, it wouldn’t. Israel could very well erase Palestine off the map is it we’re inclined to do so. But Israel isn’t the one picking fights and wanting to annihilate the other side.
And if these people didn’t have a religious prejudice, Jews wouldn’t be suffering attacks all over the world over Israel defending itself. And in fact, no one would be debating Israel’s right to defend itself with full force. Like I asked you on another thread, if a country threw 4,000 rocket missiles at the U.S would you criticize America if it retaliated and defended its territory and its people with all they got?
And as for the definition... it’s not the Jews that coined the term. So no, it’s not about “us vs them” as if we’re deserving of the title and they aren’t. Third parties coined the term. But again, I’m more than happy to use “Jew hater” if you think that term is more fair.
Frau Holle wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 10:27 am I think it’s been moulded into a term now meant to separate the “us from them” between two groups of people from the exact same area with the intention of deciding who gets to be there.
Both Israelites and Palestinians deserve to be there.
I think it’s quite unfair to suggest that all of these people have a religious prejudice against one group because they don’t support the decisions of an overreaching government.