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Re: Sarah Silverman Reveals She Got Dropped From Movie Due to Old Blackface Sketch
Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 1:24 pm
by Lexy
Times were different years ago. Just because something is "taboo" now, doesn't mean it always was.
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Re: Sarah Silverman Reveals She Got Dropped From Movie Due to Old Blackface Sketch
Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 1:37 pm
by cgd5112
That Chapelle skit was hysterical!
water<wine wrote: βMon Aug 19, 2019 12:42 pm
although I think sarah silverman deserves this for being a hysterical anti-trump SJW, (remember when she thought utility markings were swastikas a couple of years ago because "this is trump's america"?) its still really dumb.
the joke in the sketch was that black face IS OFFENSIVE, the punchline being that sarah silverman's character was very naive. every joke on the show was based on her being very immature and naive. its was only funny because her character didnt "get" that it was offensive. c'mon. in the episode her and a black guy debate who had it harder, Jews (herself) or black people (him), so they "switch places". she dressed in blackface and he dressed as a stereotypical orthodox Jew. black face was considered taboo and offensive in 2007 when this was made. the only thing that changed is people being outraged by everything. in 2007 people felt comedy didnt have to follow the same social rules as society, no topic was off the table, it depended on the context. there is no more room for context, there is no nuance in entertainment anymore.
dave chappell's show featured MANY racial stereotypes, and "white face". he also did a sketch where he, a black guy was a blind KKK member. the context mattered, obviously dave chappell isnt a KKK supporter and neither was sarah silverman racist
Re: Sarah Silverman Reveals She Got Dropped From Movie Due to Old Blackface Sketch
Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 2:02 pm
by Della
Thanks for posting that.
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Re: Sarah Silverman Reveals She Got Dropped From Movie Due to Old Blackface Sketch
Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2019 8:25 am
by SouthernIslander
I couldnβt find the sketch since itβs been awhile but it wasnβt racist to me from what I remember.
Re: Sarah Silverman Reveals She Got Dropped From Movie Due to Old Blackface Sketch
Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2019 8:26 am
by SouthernIslander
cgd5112 wrote: βMon Aug 19, 2019 1:37 pm
That Chapelle skit was hysterical!
water<wine wrote: βMon Aug 19, 2019 12:42 pm
although I think sarah silverman deserves this for being a hysterical anti-trump SJW, (remember when she thought utility markings were swastikas a couple of years ago because "this is trump's america"?) its still really dumb.
the joke in the sketch was that black face IS OFFENSIVE, the punchline being that sarah silverman's character was very naive. every joke on the show was based on her being very immature and naive. its was only funny because her character didnt "get" that it was offensive. c'mon. in the episode her and a black guy debate who had it harder, Jews (herself) or black people (him), so they "switch places". she dressed in blackface and he dressed as a stereotypical orthodox Jew. black face was considered taboo and offensive in 2007 when this was made. the only thing that changed is people being outraged by everything. in 2007 people felt comedy didnt have to follow the same social rules as society, no topic was off the table, it depended on the context. there is no more room for context, there is no nuance in entertainment anymore.
dave chappell's show featured MANY racial stereotypes, and "white face". he also did a sketch where he, a black guy was a blind KKK member. the context mattered, obviously dave chappell isnt a KKK supporter and neither was sarah silverman racist
Omg. It never gets old!!!
Re: Sarah Silverman Reveals She Got Dropped From Movie Due to Old Blackface Sketch
Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2019 9:05 am
by hockeymom87
water<wine wrote: βMon Aug 19, 2019 12:42 pm
although I think sarah silverman deserves this for being a hysterical anti-trump SJW, (remember when she thought utility markings were swastikas a couple of years ago because "this is trump's america"?) its still really dumb.
the joke in the sketch was that black face IS OFFENSIVE, the punchline being that sarah silverman's character was very naive. every joke on the show was based on her being very immature and naive. its was only funny because her character didnt "get" that it was offensive. c'mon. in the episode her and a black guy debate who had it harder, Jews (herself) or black people (him), so they "switch places". she dressed in blackface and he dressed as a stereotypical orthodox Jew. black face was considered taboo and offensive in 2007 when this was made. the only thing that changed is people being outraged by everything. in 2007 people felt comedy didnt have to follow the same social rules as society, no topic was off the table, it depended on the context. there is no more room for context, there is no nuance in entertainment anymore.
dave chappell's show featured MANY racial stereotypes, and "white face". he also did a sketch where he, a black guy was a blind KKK member. the context mattered, obviously dave chappell isnt a KKK supporter and neither was sarah silverman racist
Not to mention the movie white chicks. If that movie was remade and called black chicks everyone would lose their minds
Re: Sarah Silverman Reveals She Got Dropped From Movie Due to Old Blackface Sketch
Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2019 9:55 am
by Della
hockeymom87 wrote: βTue Aug 20, 2019 9:05 am
water<wine wrote: βMon Aug 19, 2019 12:42 pm
although I think sarah silverman deserves this for being a hysterical anti-trump SJW, (remember when she thought utility markings were swastikas a couple of years ago because "this is trump's america"?) its still really dumb.
the joke in the sketch was that black face IS OFFENSIVE, the punchline being that sarah silverman's character was very naive. every joke on the show was based on her being very immature and naive. its was only funny because her character didnt "get" that it was offensive. c'mon. in the episode her and a black guy debate who had it harder, Jews (herself) or black people (him), so they "switch places". she dressed in blackface and he dressed as a stereotypical orthodox Jew. black face was considered taboo and offensive in 2007 when this was made. the only thing that changed is people being outraged by everything. in 2007 people felt comedy didnt have to follow the same social rules as society, no topic was off the table, it depended on the context. there is no more room for context, there is no nuance in entertainment anymore.
dave chappell's show featured MANY racial stereotypes, and "white face". he also did a sketch where he, a black guy was a blind KKK member. the context mattered, obviously dave chappell isnt a KKK supporter and neither was sarah silverman racist
Not to mention the movie white chicks. If that movie was remade and called black chicks everyone would lose their minds
You're saying that if a movie was made about white female police officers dressed up as black women doing a sting operation in Chicago would be racist?
Re: Sarah Silverman Reveals She Got Dropped From Movie Due to Old Blackface Sketch
Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:17 am
by hockeymom87
CockatooCrazyColt529 wrote: βTue Aug 20, 2019 9:55 am
hockeymom87 wrote: βTue Aug 20, 2019 9:05 am
water<wine wrote: βMon Aug 19, 2019 12:42 pm
although I think sarah silverman deserves this for being a hysterical anti-trump SJW, (remember when she thought utility markings were swastikas a couple of years ago because "this is trump's america"?) its still really dumb.
the joke in the sketch was that black face IS OFFENSIVE, the punchline being that sarah silverman's character was very naive. every joke on the show was based on her being very immature and naive. its was only funny because her character didnt "get" that it was offensive. c'mon. in the episode her and a black guy debate who had it harder, Jews (herself) or black people (him), so they "switch places". she dressed in blackface and he dressed as a stereotypical orthodox Jew. black face was considered taboo and offensive in 2007 when this was made. the only thing that changed is people being outraged by everything. in 2007 people felt comedy didnt have to follow the same social rules as society, no topic was off the table, it depended on the context. there is no more room for context, there is no nuance in entertainment anymore.
dave chappell's show featured MANY racial stereotypes, and "white face". he also did a sketch where he, a black guy was a blind KKK member. the context mattered, obviously dave chappell isnt a KKK supporter and neither was sarah silverman racist
Not to mention the movie white chicks. If that movie was remade and called black chicks everyone would lose their minds
You're saying that if a movie was made about white female police officers dressed up as black women doing a sting operation in Chicago would be racist?
Sure but white chicks had black men dressing up like white women so a remake would need white men dressing like black women. Unless they gender swapped it and had women dress like men.
Re: Sarah Silverman Reveals She Got Dropped From Movie Due to Old Blackface Sketch
Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:19 am
by morgan
hockeymom87 wrote: βTue Aug 20, 2019 10:17 am
CockatooCrazyColt529 wrote: βTue Aug 20, 2019 9:55 am
hockeymom87 wrote: βTue Aug 20, 2019 9:05 am
Not to mention the movie white chicks. If that movie was remade and called black chicks everyone would lose their minds
You're saying that if a movie was made about white female police officers dressed up as black women doing a sting operation in Chicago would be racist?
Sure but white chicks had black men dressing up like white women so a remake would need white men dressing like black women. Unless they gender swapped it and had women dress like men.
What if it was 2 black men who identified as white women who had to wear blackface?
Re: Sarah Silverman Reveals She Got Dropped From Movie Due to Old Blackface Sketch
Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:28 am
by Della
hockeymom87 wrote: βTue Aug 20, 2019 10:17 am
CockatooCrazyColt529 wrote: βTue Aug 20, 2019 9:55 am
hockeymom87 wrote: βTue Aug 20, 2019 9:05 am
Not to mention the movie white chicks. If that movie was remade and called black chicks everyone would lose their minds
You're saying that if a movie was made about white female police officers dressed up as black women doing a sting operation in Chicago would be racist?
Sure but white chicks had black men dressing up like white women so a remake would need white men dressing like black women. Unless they gender swapped it and had women dress like men.
Aren't most LEO males? How is going undercover gender swapping? You think that doesn't happen?