Teen Mom And Prematurely Born Baby Neglected At Border Patrol Facility For 7 Days

[Deleted User 276]

Actually, yes, parts of Mexico are plagued with a lot of problems similar to those migrant refugees are hoping to escape.

I don’t know what her options are in the US or why this was her destination. Which is why I’m not out here saying what she should have done differently. But you are, so I assume you know something I don’t. You say she should have stayed in Mexico “for a week or two.” Walk me through that, would you?

What are her options in America? Why are they any different? Shouldn't she be just as safe in Mexico as she is here? Or is Mexico really a bad country too?

Walk you through that...what the hell does that even mean? She most likely gave birth in a hospital to a premature baby. Unless they kicked her out, she should have stayed until both herself and the baby were healthy.

There's not enough information to make that call. She and the baby may have been "healthy" when released and then became ill after the journey and 7 days in detention. What's also not known is where in Mexico she had the baby. Some parts of rural Mexico are not equipped to handle difficult births and neonatal care.

I'm part of a group who meets the Greyhound route carrying asylum seekers north. Friday we had a young woman with a 5 day old baby. Both were in good shape but were released from ICE with no diapers, food, blanket, money, or change of clothes. They were on hour 36 of a 58+ hour journey. Without the help of people in groups like ours which gives food, and supplies to asylum seekers, this mother and baby could also have been in distress by the time they reached their destination.

[Lexy]

I disagree. I think our issue as a country is the care and treatment we give asylum seekers once they enter the US not the care and treatment prior to their arrival.

While I get what you are saying, it still makes no sense to me that she and the baby didn't stay in the hospital until they were both healthy enough to be released. Their poor health is on Mexico, not us. She didn't need to come to America to seek asylum, she could have gotten that in Mexico.

It is incredibly difficult to seek asylum in Mexico. They have very strict immigration laws.

Well isn't that ironic!

[Deleted User 276]

I disagree. I think our issue as a country is the care and treatment we give asylum seekers once they enter the US not the care and treatment prior to their arrival.

While I get what you are saying, it still makes no sense to me that she and the baby didn't stay in the hospital until they were both healthy enough to be released. Their poor health is on Mexico, not us. She didn't need to come to America to seek asylum, she could have gotten that in Mexico.

It is incredibly difficult to seek asylum in Mexico. They have very strict immigration laws.

One of the reasons it's difficult is that Mexico is not considered a "Safe Third Country" under UNHC, especially for women, indigenous persons, LGBT, children, and youth.

[Pjmm]

My guess is that the shelters are overrun and understaffed. CPS is indeed state run so it might not have jurisdiction over a federal facility. We're simply not prepared to handle what we're getting.

I agree that the processing centers are overrun and understaffed but this is a problem that the US has seen coming for over a year. Can you imagine what a difference it would have made if Trump had spent the time and money on processing centers and staff rather than on his wall?

Or worked with Mexico to secure THEIR borders. Or tried to stabilize Venezuela. Or a hundred better actions. It's maddening.

[Deleted User 276]

Sadly, some people do feel that way. They hide these feelings behind blaming the parents of these children for what’s happening to them. Because, you know, if they were living in terrible conditions, in a place of poverty and violence they would just not try to seek a better life for them or their kids. They would just suck it up, I’m sure.

Go home, you worthless pieces of shit!! We don't want you here!!!

/s

The way I imagine some ^

I think it's more insidious than that. I think employing the argument that the parents are to blame transforms into the parents don't love their children which furthers dehumanization.

[EarlGrayHot]

The child is not responsible for what the parents do.

[Momto2boys973]

I agree. And in reality it’s quite the opposite. It’s because they’re desperate for their children that they take such a risk. What utter lack of empathy to say “well, they should just stay where they belong!” I find it sad that comes from alleged mothers who I’m sure would do whatever they had to do to save their children.

Sadly, some people do feel that way. They hide these feelings behind blaming the parents of these children for what’s happening to them. Because, you know, if they were living in terrible conditions, in a place of poverty and violence they would just not try to seek a better life for them or their kids. They would just suck it up, I’m sure.

Go home, you worthless pieces of shit!! We don't want you here!!!

/s

The way I imagine some ^

I think it's more insidious than that. I think employing the argument that the parents are to blame transforms into the parents don't love their children which furthers dehumanization.

[Deleted User 276]

I agree. And in reality it’s quite the opposite. It’s because they’re desperate for their children that they take such a risk. What utter lack of empathy to say “well, they should just stay where they belong!” I find it sad that comes from alleged mothers who I’m sure would do whatever they had to do to save their children.

Sadly, some people do feel that way. They hide these feelings behind blaming the parents of these children for what’s happening to them. Because, you know, if they were living in terrible conditions, in a place of poverty and violence they would just not try to seek a better life for them or their kids. They would just suck it up, I’m sure.

I think it's more insidious than that. I think employing the argument that the parents are to blame transforms into the parents don't love their children which furthers dehumanization.

The same language was used on CM regarding Syrian refugees with the same intent.

[morgan]

It is inhumane what is happening to people there.


And of course there's the people picking and choosing which babies to care about.

Clearly this mother didn't care

So she left Mexico with her premature baby after a cesarean section. Meaning she AND the baby WERE in a hospital at one point several weeks ago and then she made the trek here with her newborn. And CBP is responsible how?

Of course. Clearly "asylum seekers" are unable to make mature responsible decisions. Therefore any stupid decisions they make is the fault of Americans. More specifically Republicans. Morely specifically men. Morely morely specifically white men.

[morgan]

I disagree. I think our issue as a country is the care and treatment we give asylum seekers once they enter the US not the care and treatment prior to their arrival.

While I get what you are saying, it still makes no sense to me that she and the baby didn't stay in the hospital until they were both healthy enough to be released. Their poor health is on Mexico, not us. She didn't need to come to America to seek asylum, she could have gotten that in Mexico.

It is incredibly difficult to seek asylum in Mexico. They have very strict immigration laws.

Imagine that.