Just curious - question to those saying they may vote for DT: do you not worry about losing the right to control reproductive choices for yourself and your daughters?
The well publicized Project 2025 Plan makes it clear a future GOP administration plans to criminalize abortion and curtail access to birth control and all sexual health education.
I think I might vote for Trump
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Just my two cents but I think many people (not just women) don't think outside their immediate personal sphere of reference. Using abortion as an example, many will say that there is no situation that I would have an abortion, I can't imagine a situation where my daughter would have an abortion, and if needed and was unavailable, I have the resources to travel elsewhere. While polled, they might say that yes, they agree that women should have the right to choose but when it comes to voting, they may prefer something that they feel directly impacts them personally like lower gas prices.MonarchMom wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 5:39 pm Just curious - question to those saying they may vote for DT: do you not worry about losing the right to control reproductive choices for yourself and your daughters?
The well publicized Project 2025 Plan makes it clear a future GOP administration plans to criminalize abortion and curtail access to birth control and all sexual health education.
"The books that the world calls immoral are books that show its own shame." - Oscar Wilde
I believe that is what it's going to take. The Trump supporters are going to have to deal with the consequences of their actions.SallyMae wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 3:07 pmIt's way harder to recover from spectacular failure than to pivot while you are still standing. The new AIs and the end of labor will be a shakeup that changes everything, they will force us confront and rebuild our definitions of the obligations of citizen and government. I'd way rather have that shakeup in the context of a free and open democratic republic than under the control of fascists.Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 2:52 pmThe state in which Trumpism has become a normal. I believe his policies will fail spectacularly, leading to a revisioned government that's for the people .
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No U.S. president has been perfect but if one fails while in office, the voting citizens go down with them too.Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 2:52 pmThe state in which Trumpism has become a normal. I believe his policies will fail spectacularly, leading to a revisioned government that's for the people .AZOldGal66 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 9:20 amWhat do you feel is our current status quo?Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 7:29 am Not because I think he's going to do well by the country, but because I think America needs to shake up the status quo.
I believe American Democracy is strong enough to survive.
Thoughts?
There's no true out from that.
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Biden was never declared mentally unable to stand trial. That’s a false Facebook claim that was taken completely out of context based on one line in a 400 page report written by someone who has no actual ability nor training to declare someone unfit to stand trial. That trial was about whether or not he improperly stored classified documents, something Trump has actively under trial of purposefully doing. I don’t have an issue with criticism toward Biden but I would like it to be factual.Anonymous 2 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 12:41 pmAs opposed to someone who was declared mentally unable to stand trial for his crimes? We need someone new! They are both terrible choices.carterscutie85 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 12:32 pm Imagine voting for someone who isn't allowed to run an ice cream stand in New York to be our country's leader.
You had better hope the foundations of democracy hold.AZOldGal66 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 6:32 pmNo U.S. president has been perfect but if one fails while in office, the voting citizens go down with them too.Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 2:52 pmThe state in which Trumpism has become a normal. I believe his policies will fail spectacularly, leading to a revisioned government that's for the people .
There's no true out from that.
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From your scope, if those foundations fail, what then?Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 7:06 pmYou had better hope the foundations of democracy hold.AZOldGal66 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 6:32 pmNo U.S. president has been perfect but if one fails while in office, the voting citizens go down with them too.Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 2:52 pm
The state in which Trumpism has become a normal. I believe his policies will fail spectacularly, leading to a revisioned government that's for the people .
There's no true out from that.
Why not just vote for Biden if you're so opposed to Trump?
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Except I didn't get that information from fb I got it from the news.Olioxenfree wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 6:46 pmBiden was never declared mentally unable to stand trial. That’s a false Facebook claim that was taken completely out of context based on one line in a 400 page report written by someone who has no actual ability nor training to declare someone unfit to stand trial. That trial was about whether or not he improperly stored classified documents, something Trump has actively under trial of purposefully doing. I don’t have an issue with criticism toward Biden but I would like it to be factual.Anonymous 2 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 12:41 pmAs opposed to someone who was declared mentally unable to stand trial for his crimes? We need someone new! They are both terrible choices.carterscutie85 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 12:32 pm Imagine voting for someone who isn't allowed to run an ice cream stand in New York to be our country's leader.
Nor do I believe we should excuse the crimes of one president because another did it too.
It would be rocky for a while trying to get back to a government that functions. Rebuilding it hopefully with renewed vision on what doesn't work.AZOldGal66 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 8:33 pmFrom your scope, if those foundations fail, what then?Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 7:06 pmYou had better hope the foundations of democracy hold.AZOldGal66 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 6:32 pm
No U.S. president has been perfect but if one fails while in office, the voting citizens go down with them too.
There's no true out from that.
Why not just vote for Biden if you're so opposed to Trump?
Because I'm not unrealistic. Biden is more of the same we've experienced for the last forty or so years. Trump is willing to shake it all up and see what falls out. He's willing to open the Pandora's box that is America's soul.
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Did it say he was an elderly man with diminished capacities?Olioxenfree wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 6:46 pmBiden was never declared mentally unable to stand trial. That’s a false Facebook claim that was taken completely out of context based on one line in a 400 page report written by someone who has no actual ability nor training to declare someone unfit to stand trial. That trial was about whether or not he improperly stored classified documents, something Trump has actively under trial of purposefully doing. I don’t have an issue with criticism toward Biden but I would like it to be factual.Anonymous 2 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 12:41 pmAs opposed to someone who was declared mentally unable to stand trial for his crimes? We need someone new! They are both terrible choices.carterscutie85 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 12:32 pm Imagine voting for someone who isn't allowed to run an ice cream stand in New York to be our country's leader.