CockatooCrazyColt529 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 5:35 amHmmm, 2019 - 15 = 2004Valentina327 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:47 pmChicago has about the strictest gun laws in the country. Why don't you check out what our weekend shooting numbers are.Ledina60 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:28 pm People keep blaming shootings on mental illness or they bring up shootings in Chicago as inevitable, not preventable, and think those are reasons why there is no reason to strictly enforce gun laws( 100% background checks, for example )
But here’s another of many examples why average people will cause preventable shootings:
Child shot and killed in Heron Lake home
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KSTP channel 5 in Minneapolis,MN
It appear to be accidental , due to negligence.
But let’s think about how and why this happens. And how it can be prevented.
And let’s be more honest and about the fact that the laws we have now are being ignored.
So much negligence.
And don’t forget the many cases of groups with hostile members who brag about their ability to shoot “ enemies” . They do.
And violence in marriage or relationships - some arguments become violent and with a gun in the home it can be deadly,
There’s more too- I’ll just leave this here.
Yes, gun laws are being ignored. "So much negligence".
By all means - pass more gun laws. That's the answer. Because criminals ALWAYS obey the law.
Again, we need to address what's changed in society these last 15 years. Guns have been available for hundreds of years. Your car can be turned into a weapon. So can your cell phone. Guns are not standing up and firing themselves. This is a society problem - not an inanimate object problem.
What expired in 2004?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violent ... cement_Act
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal ... eapons_Ban
I wouldn't say in the last 15 years. Mass shootings from before then is what prompted the ban.
The ban took effect September 13, 1994 and expired on September 13, 2004 by a sunset provision. Since the expiration date, there is no federal ban on the subject firearms or magazines capable of holding more than ten rounds of ammunition
If this is what you're referring to, it's not these types of weapons that are mowing down up to 70 souls a weekend here in Chicago. We lose more to violence here in a few months than nationwide mass shootings in a year.
I agree there were mass shootings prior, but they were sparse. It seems to have really amped up in recent years.
"As of July 31, 2019, 248 mass shootings have occurred in 2019 that fit the inclusion criteria of this article. This averages out to 1.2 shootings per day. In these shootings, 979 people were injured and 246 died (for a total of 1,325 victims)."
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of ... es_in_2019
Just in Chicago, we've had 1692 shooting victims in the same time period. This isn't even counting St Louis, Baltimore and other cities that are known for a lot of violence.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that the guns used in the shootings in Chicago and other high crime major cities were not acquired legally nor is there a legal registered owner with all paperwork in order. Just a hunch though.
Again, this is a people problem, not a weapon problem. There's something that needs to be corrected in our society where these kids think actions like these are an answer. It's frustrating because no one is acknowledging this. It keeps getting talked over by the chants of background checks and banning guns that "look" like an assault rifle. There's no point if the same attitude and intent is out there. You'll never be able to ban everything that can be used as a weapon.
The violence itself and the corresponding mindset need to be addressed - not the tool that's being wielded. If someone intends malice they'll find a way to do it.
and tells me to never buy one! Omg ! Dumb!
