Article on being childfree

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My daughter and her partner do not want children and the fear they had in telling me was only matched by the surprise when I said sounds good. Sure society puts pressure on women to have children but so do many parents - that continuation of blood line which is extremely important in some cultures. I find that my daughter’s generation is less interested in bearing children (20 something’s) as many of my daughter’s peers have made the same decision. As this generation ages and my generation dies out, less emphasis will be placed on women carrying children, I’m convinced. Our society currently seems to put a huge emphasis on it but doesn’t then socially support it.
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We generate way too many problems for ourselves…
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We generate way too many problems for ourselves…
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Olioxenfree wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2024 12:08 pm I think that there also are women who would want to be mothers except they don’t want the loss of identity that our society tries to force on us. I’m not saying kids don’t take a lot of my time and aren’t a part of who I am, but I am still my own person and have my own life.
This. This right here. Society expects us to basically drop everything about us that makes us who we are in order to devote our entire selves into being a wife and/or mother. We're not supposed to have any interests or hobbies that cannot include our children and spouses. We're supposed to just be a wife and mother, nothing else. And society really loves ridiculing and inputting their unwarranted 2 cents if they see a woman who still has things she loves to do that do not include her children.

Even back in the OG Cafemom days, there were those who insisted once we became mothers that we had to abandon everything about us that made us who we were to become some stepford bitch.

Screw that.
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Little boxes.
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Murdoc's Mistress wrote: Sun Apr 28, 2024 9:23 am
Olioxenfree wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2024 12:08 pm I think that there also are women who would want to be mothers except they don’t want the loss of identity that our society tries to force on us. I’m not saying kids don’t take a lot of my time and aren’t a part of who I am, but I am still my own person and have my own life.
This. This right here. Society expects us to basically drop everything about us that makes us who we are in order to devote our entire selves into being a wife and/or mother. We're not supposed to have any interests or hobbies that cannot include our children and spouses. We're supposed to just be a wife and mother, nothing else. And society really loves ridiculing and inputting their unwarranted 2 cents if they see a woman who still has things she loves to do that do not include her children.

Even back in the OG Cafemom days, there were those who insisted once we became mothers that we had to abandon everything about us that made us who we were to become some stepford bitch.

Screw that.
When did anyone ever say that on cafemom?
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Slimshandy wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 12:48 pm
Murdoc's Mistress wrote: Sun Apr 28, 2024 9:23 am
Olioxenfree wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2024 12:08 pm I think that there also are women who would want to be mothers except they don’t want the loss of identity that our society tries to force on us. I’m not saying kids don’t take a lot of my time and aren’t a part of who I am, but I am still my own person and have my own life.
This. This right here. Society expects us to basically drop everything about us that makes us who we are in order to devote our entire selves into being a wife and/or mother. We're not supposed to have any interests or hobbies that cannot include our children and spouses. We're supposed to just be a wife and mother, nothing else. And society really loves ridiculing and inputting their unwarranted 2 cents if they see a woman who still has things she loves to do that do not include her children.

Even back in the OG Cafemom days, there were those who insisted once we became mothers that we had to abandon everything about us that made us who we were to become some stepford bitch.

Screw that.
When did anyone ever say that on cafemom?
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Anonymous 1 wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 1:07 pm
Slimshandy wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 12:48 pm
Murdoc's Mistress wrote: Sun Apr 28, 2024 9:23 am

This. This right here. Society expects us to basically drop everything about us that makes us who we are in order to devote our entire selves into being a wife and/or mother. We're not supposed to have any interests or hobbies that cannot include our children and spouses. We're supposed to just be a wife and mother, nothing else. And society really loves ridiculing and inputting their unwarranted 2 cents if they see a woman who still has things she loves to do that do not include her children.

Even back in the OG Cafemom days, there were those who insisted once we became mothers that we had to abandon everything about us that made us who we were to become some stepford bitch.

Screw that.
When did anyone ever say that on cafemom?
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The article is simply another example of how people should get their noses out of other people's lives and mind their own F***ing business. If someone wants kids, great. If they don't, fantastic. Anyone saying shit can f**k right off.
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mommy_jules wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2024 11:55 am
"I have felt like a freak because of it," she said.
"I feel like my perspective and my experience is just not acceptable."
In Caroline's eyes, society is set up for motherhood.
"You realise how you're quite excluded from a lot of life," she said.
It’s weird how this is true, but at the same time not entirely true. Our society doesn’t benefit women.
YES!

I immediately thought, I could change just a few phrases and sentences and write the EXACT same article for

Single people
Childless couples
SAH parents (especially dads)
WOH parents (especially moms)

I can sympathize with their perspectives but feeling alone and ostracized from the “norm” is more “normal” than I think, actually feeling like you have a group to belong to!
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